Stick to One Sens / Change Sens from Time to Time?

[Chrollo]

CSGO and Valorant player here. I have heard from many professional CSGO/Valorant players throughout the years that you should pick a sensitivity that you want and are comfortable with and stick to it permanently. "Constantly changing settings and equipment is a surefire way to be a permanent newb" lol. Not planning on changing my sensitivity anytime soon but just curious about people's experiences who change their sens from time to time and what it has done for their aim

[fortunate reee]

2 hours ago, Chrollo said:

"Constantly changing settings and equipment is a surefire way to be a permanent newb"

tldr: cap (a latam thing to say they are all about their  "muscle memory" and other sketchy stuff)

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having a set 360 distance makes learning how to aim alot simpler initially but given how different games are using different fov / perspectives that can be a bit difficult and looking at how much one,and their preferences tend to change over time that deosnt really make sense.

from my long term experience with trying to match sens over the years i have noticed that the more i played the less ime it took for me to " get gud" at games and warmup time to a new sens and or new game shrunk significantly. said experience i have made matches quite well with this paper about motor skills ( although the exact match between motor function and hand eye coordination and  gaming isnt clear)

Motor-Skills-Are-Strengthened-through-Reconsolidation(2).pdf

this pdf kind of jsut says that we tend to get better at certain motor functions / sports and by extension if we soemwhat regularly mix up or parameters (in this case sens /seetings or gear) and thus have our brain reconsolidate the brain functions used in aiming (when applied to gaming that is, obviously not this papers main target area while still being somewhat applicable).

^this doesnt mean that you might not get a bit more consistent by usign a certain range of sens instead of all of it at this point in time i can use the 30-80 cm range with a decent level of consistency and very little warmup time 

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i personally wouldnt recommend taking alot of advice from pro players since they have played their respective game for multiple thousand hrs they are prone to be good at it given the amount of time and dedication and often pure talent at what they do that isnt caused by their sens / settings or gear but simply their respective body & or mind 

we have seen that same "a pro said this is true so it must be true" stuff with:

-4:3 stretched res (being "uniformally good &the only true res to use if you want to be good")

-matching the same 360distance even when you dont have the same fov (which wont give you  the same feeling) although it does make your navifgation esier

-vsync = gsync ( "adding input lag") , also not true when done properly [ vsync can add inputlag when you dont cap your fps, and gsync actualy reduces lag when you configure itproperly ]

-mouse accel "being bad" - a myth created mostly due to bad game implementations and windows enhanced pointer precision (which is bad )

-screen tearing

^this being a great example of a pro with a ton of fps experience and talent when it comes to games in general that has no idea what certain things and what he is talking about. many of them have their beliefs which doesnt mean that their skills should be an excuse for them missinforming their audiences

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id actually suggest listening to the guys over at

https://discord.com/invite/kovaak

when it comes to aiming /trainign mechanics and playing the game for building up game sense because that is something many forget,

which will actually improve overtime games arent just mechanics to learn but also strats angles etc to memorize

 

Edited July 20, 2022 by fortunate reee

[Chrollo]

13 hours ago, fortunate reee said:

tldr: cap (a latam thing to say they are all about their  "muscle memory" and other sketchy stuff)

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having a set 360 distance makes learning how to aim alot simpler initially but given how different games are using different fov / perspectives that can be a bit difficult and looking at how much one,and their preferences tend to change over time that deosnt really make sense.

from my long term experience with trying to match sens over the years i have noticed that the more i played the less ime it took for me to " get gud" at games and warmup time to a new sens and or new game shrunk significantly. said experience i have made matches quite well with this paper about motor skills ( although the exact match between motor function and hand eye coordination and  gaming isnt clear)

Motor-Skills-Are-Strengthened-through-Reconsolidation(2).pdf 741.89 kB · 2 downloads

this pdf kind of jsut says that we tend to get better at certain motor functions / sports and by extension if we soemwhat regularly mix up or parameters (in this case sens /seetings or gear) and thus have our brain reconsolidate the brain functions used in aiming (when applied to gaming that is, obviously not this papers main target area while still being somewhat applicable).

^this doesnt mean that you might not get a bit more consistent by usign a certain range of sens instead of all of it at this point in time i can use the 30-80 cm range with a decent level of consistency and very little warmup time 

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i personally wouldnt recommend taking alot of advice from pro players since they have played their respective game for multiple thousand hrs they are prone to be good at it given the amount of time and dedication and often pure talent at what they do that isnt caused by their sens / settings or gear but simply their respective body & or mind 

we have seen that same "a pro said this is true so it must be true" stuff with:

-4:3 stretched res (being "uniformally good &the only true res to use if you want to be good")

-matching the same 360distance even when you dont have the same fov (which wont give you  the same feeling) although it does make your navifgation esier

-vsync = gsync ( "adding input lag") , also not true when done properly [ vsync can add inputlag when you dont cap your fps, and gsync actualy reduces lag when you configure itproperly ]

-mouse accel "being bad" - a myth created mostly due to bad game implementations and windows enhanced pointer precision (which is bad )

-screen tearing

^this being a great example of a pro with a ton of fps experience and talent when it comes to games in general that has no idea what certain things and what he is talking about. many of them have their beliefs which doesnt mean that their skills should be an excuse for them missinforming their audiences

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id actually suggest listening to the guys over at

https://discord.com/invite/kovaak

when it comes to aiming /trainign mechanics and playing the game for building up game sense because that is something many forget,

which will actually improve overtime games arent just mechanics to learn but also strats angles etc to memorize

 

Very interesting to read. After many years as part of the CSGO community I've always believed to not change your settings for long-term consistency, hence me never really changing any settings, even small changes such as crosshair. But it seems like it's not as bad as I think it is. Aside from this reply I've also done a bit more researching on my own and seems there's a lot of debate on this topic and it's interesting to hear the other side of the argument

Personally as someone who started playing CS many years ago with a very tiny mousepad I've had to play with high sens from the start. I have tried lowering my sens in the past and changing it up but it seems that I am really bad with arm aiming. Probably why I decided to stick to what I'm comfortable with over the years  

[fortunate reee]

On 21/07/2022 at 08:48, Chrollo said:

Very interesting to read. After many years as part of the CSGO community I've always believed to not change your settings for long-term consistency, hence me never really changing any settings, even small changes such as crosshair. But it seems like it's not as bad as I think it is. Aside from this reply I've also done a bit more researching on my own and seems there's a lot of debate on this topic and it's interesting to hear the other side of the argument

Personally as someone who started playing CS many years ago with a very tiny mousepad I've had to play with high sens from the start. I have tried lowering my sens in the past and changing it up but it seems that I am really bad with arm aiming. Probably why I decided to stick to what I'm comfortable with over the years  

if you ever consider switching again make sure your posture is good then make sure that you have the range of motion and space needed i personally dont think that the psa method is as great as its praised to be by some csgo heads but its deffintily one way to go if you want to get into a "comfortable" lowsense.

pretty sure that one of the more important things to do when you actually try to move into another sens range is sticking to whatever you are trying to work with instead of getting discourraged, you wont "unlearn" your old sens so using a new sens for a week or two wil just give you more range to work with long term similar to using a new pair of shoes might feel different initially but wont make relearn walking.

On 21/07/2022 at 08:48, Chrollo said:

many years as part of the CSGO community

one of the biggest filter bubbles when it comes to beliefs as old as its playerbase

On 21/07/2022 at 08:48, Chrollo said:

very tiny mousepad

havent we all initially played on a tiny mouspad using some chunk of a mouse that resembled a brick good times  

[fortunate reee]

On 21/07/2022 at 08:48, Chrollo said:

a lot of debate on this topic

this is indeed rather difficult given that there is just as much, if not even singificantly more  pseudo scientific "trust me bro" stuff floating about on reddit. i like to stick to the aiming oriented side of the internet instead of the game side when it comes to aim.

since i have seen years of debate and missinformation(i dotn believe many of those were doen on purpose but sill)  about all of that stuff above great example was this

took years for siege to implement this due to there not being a bit of information about this and the siege community being notoriously 360distance driven

(soemthing i also did for some time, and can now say that i am not a fan of anymore, due to copying some pro players sens that jsut so happend to change their settings a bit )

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similar thing with the gsync // vsync stuff mentioned before, with it luckily having been fixed due to a rise in the quality of monitor reviews and general oppinion on variable refreshrate rising

tldr: just because there are Arguemnts or debates doesnt always mean that there are two valid choices unfortunately

 

[PRIMETIME87]

If you only play cs and valorant it would probably benefit you to sticking to the same sensitivity (dont know if you base this on monitor distance or cm360 but anyways)

I dont know your background but my opinion is that If you havent done the grease work over many many years then you will use a long time to adjust to a different sensitivity and that will get you in trouble in other games. Im assuming you wouldnt be playing only these two games for the rest of your life and csgo is all about low sensitivity so try jumping in quake champions with a cm360 of 60. I doubt you will have a good time. Using the same kind of sens is fine to start out with and it will give you a good baseline to build from but you'd really want to start training that muscle memory.

Btw I played cs from the very first beta version came out in 1999. (yeez im old)

I can adjust to almost any sens and i have to because of the games I play. my cm360 is anything from 35-56 depending on the game. But then again i have probably over 40.000 hours of FPS stretching back to 1997

Edited August 3, 2022 by PRIMETIME87