Yet another Apex question, I can't figure out what to do, and I will Erupt soon.

[Zeish]

Coming from battlefield I've found my sensitivity I want to play with using the converter. 
And my results are: Mouse_sensitivity "2.396005" cl_fovScale "1.272160"

Now it seems getting 1:1 in apex is a nightmare, at least for me now. 
Then I'v read you don't quite want 1:1 aka hipfire to be the same as the scopes, it feels unnatural. So they used a formula to match it up someway. 
Also I'm not sure how battlefield V setups scopes sense, if it changes depending on the zoom level, but I want the same as battlefield V
So how do the pros set up there sense? 

From prosettings.net Timmy has mouse sense 1 and ADS multiplayer 1.05 and that probably matches? 

If I go with 2.39.... and 1.3 it doesn't add up. 
Please help x) 
Thanks a lot! Atleast I feel I contribute by paying for subscription, given all the support I need and have received. Thanks! 

Edited January 9, 2022 by Zeish

[Zeish]

Link to the video I was watching 

 

[DPI Wizard]

1 hour ago, Zeish said:

Link to the video I was watching 

I don't know how he came up with those random numbers, but they are not doing what he thinks at all.

What exactly is your settings in Battlefield? It is possible to convert it perfectly to Apex since it has individual scope settings.

[Zeish]

Thanks for answering Wizard! 
From what I can read and remember, you can leave Soldier Zoom Sensitivity at 100%, meaning it should be uniform (have the same sense, regardless of what the zoom is. If this is correct then that means that what I want is for Apex to have the same sensitivity regardless of the zoom. 

As you say what makes it difficult with Apex, is that sensitivity for Aim down sights, is dependent on FOV, and the FOV changes with each scope. 
Meaning I would have to calculate the difference by some formula and set each zoom to a correct value, whatever that is. 

Now I think this is a calculator I can use to get those values. 
https://jscalc.io/embed/Q1gf45VCY4tmm2dq 

But haven't got it working, it seems to end up way to sensitive or I am making an error on my part. 

Then What I do not know, if this is all correct or not. 

Then a lot of players, just stick with the 1 on ads, meaning the sensitivity is different with each x zoom. I'm open for change and to learn, but atm I have my flick shoot so attuned to the sense of BF V, which seems to have 1:1 ratio as stated below. I'v pulled the values from my BF V folder down below and zoom levels have the same sense regardless of how much zoom. 
Now, if battlefield handles it this way correctly or not I don't know. I'd have to download the game and see if the distance i travel with the mouse equals the same across all scopes. 

In the video I posted, in the beginning he explains how he got the values, Perhaps you understand more. 

Now this are the settings from my config file in BF V. 

Config: GstInput.MouseSensitivity 0.018000
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivity1 1.025819
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivity10x00 1.025819
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivity1x00 1.025819
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivity1x25 1.025819
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivity1x50 1.025819
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivity2 1.025819
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivity2x00 1.025819
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivity2x50 1.025819
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivity3 1.025819
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivity3x00 1.025819
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivity3x50 1.025819
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivity4 1.025819
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivity4x00 1.025819
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivity5x00 1.025819
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivity6x00 1.025819
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivity8x00 1.025819
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityAll 1.000000

Using the calculator her I get settings for apex: 
 

Sensitivity 1:

 

Mouse Sensitivity 2.396

Multiplier 1:

 

Sensitivity: 1X Holo ADS 1.945

 

Sensitivity: Sight2X 1.945

 

Sensitivity: Sight3X 1.945

 

Sensitivity: Scope4X 1.945

 

Sensitivity: Scope6X 1.945

 

Sensitivity: Scope8X 1.945

 

Sensitivity: Scope10X 1.945

To further clarify, if I where to input this values into apex config, the sense would be different with each scope zoom. 

[DPI Wizard]

15 minutes ago, Zeish said:

From what I can read and remember, you can leave Soldier Zoom Sensitivity at 100%, meaning it should be uniform (have the same sense, regardless of what the zoom is. If this is correct then that means that what I want is for Apex to have the same sensitivity regardless of the zoom. 

The actual zoom sensitivity depends on all four sensitivity variables and ADS FOV:

• Soldier Mouse Aim Sensitivity
• Soldier Zoom Aim Sensitivity
• x.xx Zoom Aim Sensitivity
• And if USA is on, the Coefficient
• Scopes 3x and below are also affected by ADS FOV

If you set all zoom sensitivity to 100%, the sensitivity will scale to the Soldier Mouse Aim Sensitivity, USA on/off and ADS FOV without any multiplier.

21 minutes ago, Zeish said:

As you say what makes it difficult with Apex, is that sensitivity for Aim down sights, is dependent on FOV, and the FOV changes with each scope. 
Meaning I would have to calculate the difference by some formula and set each zoom to a correct value, whatever that is. 

Now I think this is a calculator I can use to get those values. 
https://jscalc.io/embed/Q1gf45VCY4tmm2dq 

But haven't got it working, it seems to end up way to sensitive or I am making an error on my part. 

You don't need to just that calculator, the converter here does everything automatically. And more precise since that calculator does not take into account a bug in how Apex calculates zoom sensitivity

23 minutes ago, Zeish said:

Then a lot of players, just stick with the 1 on ads, meaning the sensitivity is different with each x zoom.

ADS set to 1 in Apex is the same as using USA on, coefficient 0 and all zoom sensitivity set to 100% in BF2042. Disregarding the previously mentioned bug and assuming you match hipfire FOV.

31 minutes ago, Zeish said:

Now this are the settings from my config file in BF V. 

I'm not sure about your FOV in BFV, but I've used 74 in this example, and tuned the calculator settings to match your sensitivity (ADS and Scope set to MDV 100% and Scale 102.5819%). As you can see in the calculation output for BFV it perfectly matches your settings, so you can be sure that any conversion will be correct:
https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=54d7a578e34831c31c90e267430dba78

[Zeish]

Thanks a ton! Ill read this properly tomorrow! 

Now I will leave this picture her for you to look at. The way I think atm, right now. Which might very well be wrong. 

What I have done her is, input a value for each ADS sense until it matched the hip sense / cm360. 

The values on the left side are the once that goes to the config file for apex. 
Very different values to adjust for the different fov. 
Took sometime playing hot cold with the numbers. 

I can't see how this isn't necessary to gain the result I want.  

[Zeish]

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Edited January 9, 2022 by Zeish

[Vaccaria]

I think I understand what people want in APEX. There is FoV for Hipfire and there is FoV for 1x. They overestimate the FoV of hipfire to get 100-106Hdeg for x1(ADS Wingman etc) they train in Aim trainers not hipfire but x1 sens, that is about 100-106Hdeg. It is very difficult to understand the needs of people until you get acquainted with the idea in their circles, they certainly do not understand why these particular settings require their skills, but as they say the body can not be fooled, they almost do not shoot with hipfire.

[Zeish]

Iv looked at more vids now and misunderstood the calculator above with the picture. I will give it another go, then see. 

But @Vaccaria you know how I can get what i want? Get the look around sense to match all ads levels? 

 

[Zeish]

Im rly bad at stuff like this, sorry. 

I just know I have like crazy aim bot level flicks in BF V I need to transfear to Apex

Edited January 9, 2022 by Zeish

[Vaccaria]

4 minutes ago, Zeish said:

Iv looked at more vids now and misunderstood the calculator above with the picture. I will give it another go, then see. 

But @Vaccaria you know how I can get what i want? Get the look around sense to match all ads levels? 

 

Give the value of your FoV in BF V

[Zeish]

Atleast what he says in this guide (linked to correct time) 

 

[Zeish]

Her is what I meant by it not being correct unless the fov is default

[Vaccaria]

You are blindly following youtube videos, they are structurally useless to me, 1) I do not use their methods and their vision of the game 2) I use this site as a calculator, I know how it works, I can work with it. You are sharing a third party calculator, I can't do calculations with it, only take numbers from there, but why take them from there... To help you, all you have to do is give the necessary data for the calculation, the DPI Wizard has already done some of the calculations, but it did not get the FoV. If you don't understand, you don't have to act blindly, let other people do it, they can help.

[DPI Wizard]

1 hour ago, Zeish said:

What I have done her is, input a value for each ADS sense until it matched the hip sense / cm360. 

The values on the left side are the once that goes to the config file for apex. 
Very different values to adjust for the different fov. 
Took sometime playing hot cold with the numbers. 

You can use the calculator achieve this easily

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=14bc8a40a4d8a36cac02452605c153d9

But matching 360 distance for scopes is usually a bad idea. With this setup the 10x scope will move over 11 pixel for every single count received from the mouse. Meaning it will skip 11 pixels making it impossible to aim at what is in between.

[Zeish]

How did you do that lol. 
So I just tested this out and I can for sure say that this isn't it haha. 
Having it 1:1 gave me quite the aim actually, but not the good feeling about it. 

So what do I do from her to match BF V perfectly, and to have the same feeling of aiming down sight with different scoopes. Cuse clearly BF V is not 1:1 haha. 
I'll promise to be a subscriber for life if you stick with me x) 

Meaning what should the ADS multiplayers be to be correct. 
I know 1.3 is a bit off but close. 
my head is in scrambles from all the testing and stupidness on my part.

Edited January 10, 2022 by Zeish

[Vaccaria]

Just now, Zeish said:

How did you do that lol. 
So I just tested this out and I can for sure say that this isn't it haha. 
Having it 1:1 gave me quite the aim actually, but not the good feeling about it. 

So what do I do from her to match BF V perfectly, and to have the same feeling of aiming down sight with different scoopes. Cuse clearly BF V is not 1:1 haha. 
I'll promise to be a subscriber for life if you stick with me x) 

Here are your settings but without your FoV. Give the FoV.

2 hours ago, DPI Wizard said:

2 hours ago, Zeish said:

Now this are the settings from my config file in BF V. 

I'm not sure about your FOV in BFV, but I've used 74 in this example, and tuned the calculator settings to match your sensitivity (ADS and Scope set to MDV 100% and Scale 102.5819%). As you can see in the calculation output for BFV it perfectly matches your settings, so you can be sure that any conversion will be correct:
https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=54d7a578e34831c31c90e267430dba78

 

[Zeish]

So then this should be right. (I have not copied over the values yet) 
Used the link and added fov and 400 dpi. 

Only thing I don't understand is that the calculator gives me all 2 different scalar_0 values. Which one is the correct one.
Also it seems Apex is coming with a x12 scoop as there is a scalar 7 available. 

Edited January 10, 2022 by Zeish

[Vaccaria]

Try these settings https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=c3139ca65ef667e64291d45cdf02efa5 I made a 55VFoV for 1X Scope / ADS (SMG, SG, Pistol)

[Vaccaria]

Here are a few more options. Under 1 is the same FoV for 1x ADS, but difference in sens between hipfire and ADS/Scope. You can check 2 for the sake of an experiment.

1) https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=3ffcb377e018c546c6e8ba999e32d322 (Slightly less sens in hipfire than in the past) or https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=2fa5fbcc1b83eec34f645ae2607cddb8 (Even less)

2) https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=5f06663c86118eef7d5221745cc07e1f or https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=670f24dd8c3a7e6b9ec2fe98da289517  There is very little difference here, because it uses 55VFoV for Hipfire. But I don't know if APEX can use 55VFoV, it must have a limit. Also I am not sure about your FoV as it is very low(I'm surprised at this FoV.).

Edited January 10, 2022 by Vaccaria

[Zeish]

Thanks! I'll try.

If you guys know how the sense is scaled for ads in bf V i just want the same

I'll get bf V installed today's and double check my settings

Fov 55 is vdeg from bf V, it's equal to almost 73 in apex. 

Edited January 10, 2022 by Zeish

[Vaccaria]

1 hour ago, Zeish said:

Fov 55 is vdeg from bf V, it's equal to almost 73 in apex. 

It is below 70, but the game minimum is 70, so FoV hipfire formality, use one of the past for 1x 55vFoV 

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=c3139ca65ef667e64291d45cdf02efa5 If Hipfire seems fast here, try below

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=3ffcb377e018c546c6e8ba999e32d322 

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=2fa5fbcc1b83eec34f645ae2607cddb8 It's even lower here. 

 

[Zeish]

I have installed Battlefield V and found all the old settings: Ill post them her soon. 
Thanks a lot for the work, I'v been a nightmare to work with. Sorry for that. 
#ADHD adult 

[DPI Wizard]

14 hours ago, Zeish said:

Only thing I don't understand is that the calculator gives me all 2 different scalar_0 values. Which one is the correct one.

A lot of games have the same sensitivity setting affect different weapons, so any time you see the same value with a clarification in parenthesis behind them you have to choose which one you prefer based on what it affect

[Zeish]

Battlefield Settings
Basic:
Soldier Mouse Aim 12% 
Advanced:
USA:ON 0% Coefficient

Soldier Zoom Aim Sensitivity: 
1.00x 102.6
1.25x 102.6
1.50x 102.6
2.00x 102.6
2.50x 102.6
3.00x 102.6
4.00x 102.6
5.00x 102.6
6.00x 102.6
8.00x 102.6
10.00x 102.6

Vertical Mouse Aim Ratio: 
Soldier Aim Ration 100% 

Controller Tuning:
Raw Mouse Input Off - Not sure this does anything actually. 

Video Settings in game! (I've mistaken or mixed the fov taken from the config file it seems)  
Field Of View: 74 On the slider. Horizontal Fov 90 ( says on the side) 
ADS Field Of View: Off 
Explanation in game: (When Off, the magnification of weapon sight will be relative to the default field of view 55*) 

So there are the settings, which feels just perfect. Now I want them as close as possible to Kovak Aim Trainer, 3D Aim trainer and Apex ^^ 
 

Edited January 10, 2022 by Zeish