Convert CSGO to Apex 4:3 corretly

[marmanoff]

CSGO Settings

Sens 2.4
m_yaw 0.016500
res: 1024x768

trying to convert my csgo sens to 1:1 apex

Apex Res 1440x1080
Sens: Trying to figure out 1:1 for hipfire and all ads sensitivities 

I read a little on mouse-sensitivity forums. Im a bit confused. Im playing 4:3 stretched but it keeps changing it to 16:10 blackbars automatically. Then I read for 1:1 conversion you need MDV 133.3333% on all scopes and hipfire. Is this correct?

I could need some help with the conversions and yes. Vertical sens feels really off. But as Ive been informed theres not much to do about it.

Edited August 7, 2021 by marmanoff

[marmanoff]

@DPI Wizard

[marmanoff]

Hello anyone?

[DPI Wizard]

On 8/7/2021 at 5:35 PM, marmanoff said:

Then I read for 1:1 conversion you need MDV 133.3333% on all scopes and hipfire. Is this correct?

It depends on what your zoom sensitivity is, is it 1?

[marmanoff]

17 minutes ago, DPI Wizard said:

It depends on what your zoom sensitivity is, is it 1?

Apex sens 1.9 and zoom is 1.18 on 1x scope

[DPI Wizard]

1 hour ago, marmanoff said:

Apex sens 1.9 and zoom is 1.18 on 1x scope

I meant your CSGO zoom sens, you are converting from CSGO to Apex here right?

[marmanoff]

8 minutes ago, DPI Wizard said:

I meant your CSGO zoom sens, you are converting from CSGO to Apex here right?

no just want hipfire to become 1x ads

then I want to know how to convert this 1x to perfect 2x aswell and so on. If you could show me a picture how to do it

[DPI Wizard]

2 minutes ago, marmanoff said:

no just want hipfire to become 1x ads

then I want to know how to convert this 1x to perfect 2x aswell and so on. If you could show me a picture how to do it

Well, if your zoom sens in Apex is 1.18, this would be most correct: 

[marmanoff]

17 minutes ago, DPI Wizard said:

Well, if your zoom sens in Apex is 1.18, this would be most correct: 

 

Lets say Im playing 1.9 sens and 1.18 zoom sens on 1x

 

and I want to raise my mouse sensitivity but im really happy with my 1x ads sens. How would I go about just converting the hipfire and then get the new value for the new 1x sens that would be the old converted sens?

 

And how do I convert my 1.9 mouse sense and 1.18 sens to full hipfire sens? Because its the ads sense im happy with that I want as hipfire on csgo.

Edited August 8, 2021 by marmanoff

[DPI Wizard]

2 minutes ago, marmanoff said:

and I want to raise my mouse sensitivity but im really happy with my 1x ads sens. How would I go about just converting the hipfire and then get the new value for the new 1x sens?

Say you want to raise it from 1.9 to 2.1, do like this:

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=0f06ed87e697db7bd7211edd98404594

[marmanoff]

17 hours ago, DPI Wizard said:

Well, if your zoom sens in Apex is 1.18, this would be most correct: 

 

is this right for 1x?

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=43c327e3b31c231d4ef1755ae5d82687

 

and is this right for 2x?

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=a1f0a66c7ef3d090a69759317d8d8a59

 

and how would I go about converting csgo hipfire to apex 1x with apex res 1440x1080?

 

I'm also trying to convert my Apex sens to my csgo without success. Heres what I got is this the right way to do it?

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=1cc005a87c4b240bbe707990fb19208d

 

and how would I go about the process in reverse? Converting CSGO 2.995 hipfire sens with 1024x768 res to apex 1x sens with res 1440x1080?
 

Edited August 9, 2021 by marmanoff

[marmanoff]

20 hours ago, DPI Wizard said:

It depends on what you mean by 1:1, as you can only match one aspect of the sensitivity. 360 distance, tracking speed, flick distance etc.

 

bump

[DPI Wizard]

19 hours ago, marmanoff said:

is this right for 1x?

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=43c327e3b31c231d4ef1755ae5d82687

and is this right for 2x?

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=a1f0a66c7ef3d090a69759317d8d8a59

Both correct!

19 hours ago, marmanoff said:

and how would I go about converting csgo hipfire to apex 1x and 1440x1080?

I'm also trying to convert my Apex sens to my csgo without success. Heres what I got

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=11519d4b4b069f5b80e520439a9a6e34

You got the wrong FOV there, you've entered a config file FOV but have selected in-game.

This would be correct: https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=218752623a471c89fd17addf41565515

(Apex uses the same Source sensitivity as CSGO).

Also, doesn't apex force black bars when doing 4:3? Or are you overriding it somehow? Either way, the correct setup would be to enter your monitor's native resolution, then select the aspect ratio for this monitor. This way the calculator knows both your physical and forced aspect ratio.

[marmanoff]

2 hours ago, DPI Wizard said:

Both correct!

You got the wrong FOV there, you've entered a config file FOV but have selected in-game.

This would be correct: https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=218752623a471c89fd17addf41565515

(Apex uses the same Source sensitivity as CSGO).

Also, doesn't apex force black bars when doing 4:3? Or are you overriding it somehow? Either way, the correct setup would be to enter your monitor's native resolution, then select the aspect ratio for this monitor. This way the calculator knows both your physical and forced aspect ratio.

Right now I have apex without any blackbars. Managed to remove it.

But what ur saying is. I put in my res and aspect ratio from my monitor and pick fov type from the game to get the correct value yes?

And now that I dont have black bars. I pick 4:3 stretched right?

[DPI Wizard]

19 minutes ago, marmanoff said:

But what ur saying is. I put in my res and aspect ratio from my monitor and pick fov type from the game to get the correct value yes?

And now that I dont have black bars. I pick 4:3 stretched right?

No, enter monitor resolution and select the aspect ratio you are playing with (4:3 stretched). The physical monitor ratio is known based on the resolution alone.

The FOV type is specific to the game, it is not related to your actual aspect ratio.

[marmanoff]

13 minutes ago, DPI Wizard said:

No, enter monitor resolution and select the aspect ratio you are playing with (4:3 stretched). The physical monitor ratio is known based on the resolution alone.

The FOV type is specific to the game, it is not related to your actual aspect ratio.

Oke, so taking into concern (I believe everything you've said) this should be correct even though there is no difference right?
https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=b8d805a2abff58bbddd7115d8a0da3fd

 

and when converting my hipfire from csgo, all I do is this.
https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=7cbcbc0ee2bd92526d68aff4dddd0d71

Whats odd about this 2nd link is that im using m_yaw in CSGO and it still says 2.994994 sens in apex or w/e which is completely wrong.
Because look what CSGO converts it to without m_yaw. Apex doesnt seem to lower the sens with the consideration that apex does not have m_yaw
https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=4028fd657810936adef97eb299001968

Edited August 9, 2021 by marmanoff

[DPI Wizard]

1 minute ago, marmanoff said:

Oke, so taking into concern (I believe everything you've said) this should be correct even though there is no difference right?
https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=b8d805a2abff58bbddd7115d8a0da3fd

The conversion is set to MDV 0%, which uses the vertical FOV. And the vertical FOV doesn't change when you stretch 4:3 to 16:9, only the horizontal does, so the calculation results in the same number.

3 minutes ago, marmanoff said:

and when converting my hipfire from csgo, all I do is this.
https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=7cbcbc0ee2bd92526d68aff4dddd0d71

Whats odd about this 2nd link is that im using m_yaw in CSGO and it still says 2.994994 sens in apex or w/e which is completely wrong.
Because look what CSGO converts it to without m_yaw
https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=4028fd657810936adef97eb299001968

You hipfire conversion is set to MDH 0% here, which uses the horizontal FOV. And this FOV is different for the games you convert between, resulting in almost the same sensitivity when using m_yaw 0.0165 (since this value is most likely derived from stretching 4:3 to 16:9 which is (4/3)/(16/9)=0.75). When you do the same with the default m_yaw the sensitivity is different because it accounts for this difference.

[marmanoff]

53 minutes ago, DPI Wizard said:

The conversion is set to MDV 0%, which uses the vertical FOV. And the vertical FOV doesn't change when you stretch 4:3 to 16:9, only the horizontal does, so the calculation results in the same number.

You hipfire conversion is set to MDH 0% here, which uses the horizontal FOV. And this FOV is different for the games you convert between, resulting in almost the same sensitivity when using m_yaw 0.0165 (since this value is most likely derived from stretching 4:3 to 16:9 which is (4/3)/(16/9)=0.75). When you do the same with the default m_yaw the sensitivity is different because it accounts for this difference.

So should I set my MDH % to 133.3333 or could you send me a link from the calculator to show excatly what you are talking about and how do I always know the MDH % to make my calculations 100% accurate

Edited August 9, 2021 by marmanoff

[fortunate reee]

13 hours ago, marmanoff said:

So should I set my MDH % to 133.3333 or could you send me a link from the calculator to show excatly what you are talking about and how do I always know the MDH % to make my calculations 100% accurate

most users just stick to the one mdh/mdv value they like 

if you scroll down the calculator will usually tell you the games default scaling

alternatively mdh 100% is a very common scale used by game devs ( valorant , destiny 2) as an example and if you are not certain if

there is scalign you can always ask and someone will likely know

the calculations wont be " inaccurate" if you use another value that you prefere some games migth not allow you

to set more than 1 scope or zoom level  at a time tho so that can be a matter of annoyance

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if and when you are matching 2 games with different scaling for example csgo 133mdv and apex 0% mdv =0%mdh

you will likely have to pick the one you prefer

Edited August 10, 2021 by fortunate reee

[marmanoff]

20 hours ago, fortunate reee said:

most users just stick to the one mdh/mdv value they like 

if you scroll down the calculator will usually tell you the games default scaling

alternatively mdh 100% is a very common scale used by game devs ( valorant , destiny 2) as an example and if you are not certain if

there is scalign you can always ask and someone will likely know

the calculations wont be " inaccurate" if you use another value that you prefere some games migth not allow you

to set more than 1 scope or zoom level  at a time tho so that can be a matter of annoyance

--

if and when you are matching 2 games with different scaling for example csgo 133mdv and apex 0% mdv =0%mdh

you will likely have to pick the one you prefer

This was pretty good, I think I got the hang of it now.

[marmanoff]

Just to see if I understood everything correctly now

I take the affected by FOV and put it as my monitor distance vertical value on hipfire, ads and scopes like this


When it comes to resolution and FOV type, i just use my monitor res and select my ingame fov and fov type like this

And this result should be the closest thing to 1:1 there is now Im assuming

 

Am I missing anything or does it seem like I've got it now boys? The only thing now that I dont fully understand is that I used my vertical fov multiplier as my 1x scope on apex before for some reason with help from DPI Wizard. Havent really understood that logic yet but I think Im grasping all of this if I could just solve this one last mystery.

@DPI Wizard @fortunate reee

Edited August 11, 2021 by marmanoff

[DPI Wizard]

This looks good if your aim is to keep the sensitivity matched to the default scaling of CSGO

[marmanoff]

8 minutes ago, DPI Wizard said:

This looks good if your aim is to keep the sensitivity matched to the default scaling of CSGO

And if my zoom sens differs from 1. Ex 1.19 then i put vertical scope 119% instead of 133.3333%?

If this is the case then i got it now fully

[DPI Wizard]

Just now, marmanoff said:

And if my zoom sens differs from 1. Ex 1.19 then i put vertical scope 119% instead of 133.3333%?

If this is the case then i got it now fully

Not exactly, you then put 119 in the scale field:

Exactly how this is done correctly varies a bit from game to game though.

[marmanoff]

Oh okay. Then i got it all. Thx. That will be all.