Escape from Tarkov

[iBerggman]

1 hour ago, DPI Wizard said:

I've noticed, and I'll revisit it now. I'll play a bit and see if I can make some sense of it all

Perfect, lvl 1 traders gives you access to the Cobra EKP-8-02 1x reflex sight as well as the NPZ USP-1 4x scope that both fit straight on the ak variants. The PSO-1 sights are a little odd though, they claim to be 4x but the actual fov is a lot lower than the other "4x" sights in the game.

If you had an account from before you should be able to claim the new years gift from the profile page which gives you a couple guns as well as a money case and med case that sell for 800k rub or so on the flea market if you were to get to lvl 5.

[Traxilla]

3 hours ago, DPI Wizard said:

I've noticed, and I'll revisit it now. I'll play a bit and see if I can make some sense of it all

I've reached the end-game in the current wipe, and can set you up with any equipment. Hit me up if theres anything you need

[DPI Wizard]

Updated the game now to support change in turning speed, and added the PSO 1 as well as updated iron sight calculations. Will add more scopes when I get them!

[AIucardd]

ok all my calculations now totally different... and game server crushed, so I can't test new settings. Great.

[AIucardd]

2 hours ago, DPI Wizard said:

Updated the game now to support change in turning speed, and added the PSO 1 as well as updated iron sight calculations. Will add more scopes when I get them!

OK, ADS now is Way slower... for example, it was 0.17 for        1600 DPI and 73 FOV,  now it's 0.11 for 1600 dpi and 73 fov... (monitor distance vertical = 0%)
is it working as intended?

[DPI Wizard]

2 minutes ago, AIucardd said:

OK, ADS now is Way slower... for example, it was 0.17 for        1600 DPI and 73 FOV,  now it's 0.11 for 1600 dpi and 73 fov... (monitor distance vertical = 0%)
is it working as intended?

ADS was wrong before, it was changed a lot since I last updated it.

[AIucardd]

1 minute ago, DPI Wizard said:

ADS was wrong before, it was changed a lot since I last updated it.

ok, thank you for a great work :-)

[iBerggman]

Just a heads up, the config conversion for ads sensitivity seems to have the 0.1 minimum value for the in game conversion applied so it says the calculated value is too low even though decimal values should work just fine.

I hope 1x sights are next in line? I'm fairly certain the EKP-8-02 has the same ads fov as all the other reflex type sights in the game so the conversion should apply to the rest of them as well unless the sensitivity for some reason differs between them.

[DPI Wizard]

2 minutes ago, iBerggman said:

Just a heads up, the config conversion for ads sensitivity seems to have the 0.1 minimum value for the in game conversion applied so it says the calculated value is too low even though decimal values should work just fine.

I hope 1x sights are next in line? I'm fairly certain the EKP-8-02 has the same ads fov as all the other reflex type sights in the game so the conversion should apply to the rest of them as well unless the sensitivity for some reason differs between them.

Fixed! Yes, I'll try to get a 1x next.

[Traxilla]

Just a heads up. Weapons without planks on them doesn't have the same sensitivity as weapons that do, so that means some of the shotguns, and a couple of pistols, all rifles should have them from the get go

 

*EDIT. In terms of ADS sensitivity that is.

Edited January 19, 2020 by Traxilla

[DPI Wizard]

1X is added. This is Rainbow Six all over again, FOV and sensitivity scaling doesn't correlate at all between aims...

[AIucardd]

9 hours ago, DPI Wizard said:

1X is added. This is Rainbow Six all over again, FOV and sensitivity scaling doesn't correlate at all between aims...

Ok, now when you added 1x scopes my sens is back to 0.17 with 1700 dpi on FOV 73. 
I playing this game for two yars already, as far I can tell x1 scope and ADS iron sight with detachable mechanical sight are the same (Fov and sensitivity)... The different (higher) sens are tha guns wihout any mechanical sights attachments: AKS-74U; shotguns; pp-9/91; TOZ-106; APS/APB; mp-443; SR-1mp; TT. Those guns have the same ADS sens (way higher) as any other weapons without mechanical sight attachment (see pic below - without that 6P20 Sb2 thingy).

So, if I understood correctly. My old sens for all weapons was  0.17 with 1700 dpi on FOV 73.  Yesterday I used calculator Iron sight/ADS and this sens became 0.11: now I use x1 scope calculator and my sens back to 0.17; in both cases Actual Vfov is the same (46 degrees). So I guessing that Iron sight/ADS calculation (that way lower than my actual sens) is for weapon without mechanical sights attachments, right?

Edited January 20, 2020 by AIucardd

[DPI Wizard]

4 minutes ago, AIucardd said:

 So I guessing that Iron sight/ADS calculation (that way lower than my actual sens) is for weapon without mechanical sights attachments, right?

I assume that's the case yes, the scaling change by 1.6 when you attach the 1X even though the FOV is the same.

[AIucardd]

Just now, DPI Wizard said:

I assume that's the case yes, the scaling change by 1.6 when you attach the 1X even though the FOV is the same.

ok, I just was confused yesterday with how low my ADS speed was compared to my usual :-)... that 6P20 Sb2 thingy and all other mechanical sights that installs on guns (p226 pistol, new m9a3 and others  (pic below)) are considered as x1 scopes in this game. This will probably confuse a new players a lot. Hope Nikita will fix it someday (two+ years no fix tho).

 

Again, thank you:-)

[DPI Wizard]

2 minutes ago, AIucardd said:

that 6P20 Sb2 thingy and all other mechanical sights that installs on guns (p226 pistol, new m9a3 and others  (pic below)) are considered as x1 scopes in this game.

Ok, so the Iron sight calculation in the calculator is only valid for guns with no aim attachments, I'll clarify that!

[Banff Tan]

The EFT setting doesnt seem to be working. 

[DPI Wizard]

1 hour ago, Banff Tan said:

The EFT setting doesnt seem to be working. 

Sorry about that, was an invalid character in the name!

[idriveby]

Help please, first one seems to work fine? 

Then I try to take the changed settings and use them for other games, or in this case just copied as the same.

Spoiler

 

Doesn't seem to convert it for other games at the previous 9 inches, tried those settings to battlefield 5 and it was crazy high

Edited January 29, 2020 by idriveby

[iBerggman]

8 hours ago, idriveby said:

Help please, first one seems to work fine? 

Then I try to take the changed settings and use them for other games, or in this case just copied as the same.

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Doesn't seem to convert it for other games at the previous 9 inches, tried those settings to battlefield 5 and it was crazy high

Is 0.41 your in game sensitivity? In that case you should put that in the multiplier 1 input box instead. Sensitivity 1 is the option to account for the total turn speed reduction of the armor/helmet/backpack you use. 

Also, DPI Wizard will have to clarify how it works but since the sensitivities in eft are all over the place you might want to pick one to use as the base just to be sure instead of All since the conversion can only be correct for one of the sights anyway. 

[idriveby]

On 1/29/2020 at 4:43 AM, iBerggman said:

Is 0.41 your in game sensitivity? In that case you should put that in the multiplier 1 input box instead. Sensitivity 1 is the option to account for the total turn speed reduction of the armor/helmet/backpack you use. 

Also, DPI Wizard will have to clarify how it works but since the sensitivities in eft are all over the place you might want to pick one to use as the base just to be sure instead of All since the conversion can only be correct for one of the sights anyway. 

Thanks a lot, wow I thought they removed that armor bs a long time ago. No wonder low sens kept feeling off.

[FCM]

Hey DPI Wizard! I love your work! I believe that the turning speed reduction from weight does not affect ads sensitivity at all, and i also came to drop most if not all the sights here. 
https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/epc7ly/turn_speed_spreadsheet/

I hope my links help you with the EFT calculator!

[DPI Wizard]

1 hour ago, FCM said:

Hey DPI Wizard! I love your work! I believe that the turning speed reduction from weight does not affect ads sensitivity at all, and i also came to drop most if not all the sights here. 
https://www.reddit.com/r/EscapefromTarkov/comments/epc7ly/turn_speed_spreadsheet/

I hope my links help you with the EFT calculator!

You're correct about turning speed not affecting ADS, the calculator already does this

Thanks for all the scopes, is there any way of testing them without buying? There's no relation between stated zoom, actually zoom and 360 distance, so each scope needs to be analyzed.

[FCM]

Unfortunately there is no way of testing them without buying them. Is there any way I can help you with the analyzing of scopes? I have some of the more popular scopes on my account.

[iBerggman]

I suppose it's worth mentioning that on the last TarkovTV dev stream Nikita mentioned that an optics overhaul is one of their high priority "tasks" so at this point it's probably best to only add the scopes people regularly use, they'll also be working on moving to a monthly update schedule so things could change a lot in the (near) future.

[DPI Wizard]

5 hours ago, FCM said:

Unfortunately there is no way of testing them without buying them. Is there any way I can help you with the analyzing of scopes? I have some of the more popular scopes on my account.

Actually yes, I probably only need the 360 distance at sensitivity 1 (can be measured with external programs) and a screenshot where you can measure pixels in both hipfire and the scopes to calculate the FOV.

But if the devs are overhauling the scopes it might be worth waiting. Right now it seems to be a mess, so if they manage to unify the scaling it will be a lot easier.