BF3 to Warzone

[Ninjax]

I'm having some issues with converting my BF3 sens to warzone. Nothing feels really right. 

I have read the tutorials and more or less understand 360 Distance, MDH/MDV 0-100%  etc I get what it means on a logical level. But on a practical level it isn't working for me. I have tried multiple variations with the calculator. I'm looking for some insight on how you guys would use the calculator for these 2 games.

These are my BF3 settings.

 

Also Warzone scopes are actually mislabled magnification wise, just thought I would put that out there. https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernWarzone/comments/ggrpoq/actual_magnification_of_sniper_scopes_in_modern/

 

 

Any input (pun intended ) would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

Edited December 3, 2020 by Ninjax

[DPI Wizard]

BF3 has some inconsistencies when it comes to how the scopes scale, but this should get you the best result:

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=5dd2247ee7f966f5e9e714927b47070c

If you find the scopes too slow, increase the scaling to MDV 100% first to see how that feels.

As for the labelling of the Warzone scopes, this is very common in games actually. Names and actual magnifications are all over the place.

[Ninjax]

11 hours ago, DPI Wizard said:

BF3 has some inconsistencies when it comes to how the scopes scale, but this should get you the best result:

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=5dd2247ee7f966f5e9e714927b47070c

If you find the scopes too slow, increase the scaling to MDV 100% first to see how that feels.

As for the labelling of the Warzone scopes, this is very common in games actually. Names and actual magnifications are all over the place.

Thanks these settings are nice, but in order for me to be able to continue by making my own settings in the future I need greater understanding and would hope you can clarify a few things for me!

1. I get the MDV 0% but why are we matching my BF3 hipfire to Warzone ADS? Wouldn't it be better to match BF3 hipfire to hipfire and ADS to ADS?

2nd. BF3 ADS (irons/reflex) with my FoV is  

 

 

 

40 

 

 

65.810435 

Warzone with Affected enabled is 

54.739943

 

85.248634

While independent is

38.552603

63.742032

Wouldn't it be better to use independent to try to match my BF3 FoV?

3rd. Seeing as BF3 ADS and Warzone ADS (independent AR LMG) are so similar I have also tried to do a 360 distance match ADS to ADS and to my surprise it felt off. Would you happen to know what would cause something like that? With FoVs being similiar I would assume 360 distance would be a great match. I did this

Thinking it would be highly similar and it wasn't I really don't understand why.

 

4th. according to a knowledgeable member of this community, BF3 uses a fixed 0.5 scope multiplier so he recommended a 47.12% MDV. I don't understand how we go from 50 to 47.12 but he is a resourceful member so I took his word for it lol. But does that mean I should be using a 47.12 MDV instead of 0% or 100%? 

5th. Should I always be using scale 100% Or should I be testing that too?

6th and final question. When Launching 3d aim trainer from site is it transferring all sens settings? i.e sens 1 and 2  multiplier 1 fov etc?

 

I just want to say, I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. Teach a man to fish and all that !

 

 

Edited December 3, 2020 by Ninjax

[DPI Wizard]

22 hours ago, Ninjax said:

1. I get the MDV 0% but why are we matching my BF3 hipfire to Warzone ADS? Wouldn't it be better to match BF3 hipfire to hipfire and ADS to ADS?

Ideally your ADS should be based on the hipfire through a conversion, this way you get a consistent aim regardless of the zoom of your scope.

22 hours ago, Ninjax said:

Wouldn't it be better to use independent to try to match my BF3 FoV?

In this case yes, but you shouldn't rely on being able to match scope for scope since most games won't allow you to do this.

22 hours ago, Ninjax said:

3rd. Seeing as BF3 ADS and Warzone ADS (independent AR LMG) are so similar I have also tried to do a 360 distance match ADS to ADS and to my surprise it felt off. Would you happen to know what would cause something like that? With FoVs being similiar I would assume 360 distance would be a great match. I did this

Thinking it would be highly similar and it wasn't I really don't understand why.

That should indeed feel about the same, you can always try to click the underlined sensitivity value to test this sensitivity in 3D Aim Trainer, it should be exactly the same as in the game if set up correctly.

22 hours ago, Ninjax said:

4th. according to a knowledgeable member of this community, BF3 uses a fixed 0.5 scope multiplier so he recommended a 47.12% MDV. I don't understand how we go from 50 to 47.12 but he is a resourceful member so I took his word for it lol. But does that mean I should be using a 47.12 MDV instead of 0% or 100%? 

That's not correct. The issue with BF3 is that it does not apply the same factor to FOV and sensitivity, so everything changes when you change FOV. And it's not the same across all aims either, so nothing really lines up.

22 hours ago, Ninjax said:

5th. Should I always be using scale 100% Or should I be testing that too?

Scale is great to match how games work. Say you in Apex set all the scopes to 0.7. You can replicate this in the calculator by setting it to MDV 0% (the default scaling of Apex) and scale 70% (which is essentially what 0.7 is): https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=6f2dcab9f58fe297ce9dc864922bf64d

This way you can be sure that whatever you convert to will scale exactly the same. You can experiment with it to adjust how fast or slow scopes are based on the scaling you use. The difference between this and just adjusting the Monitor Distance percentage is that this affects all aims in a linear fashion, while monitor distance will affect scopes more when the FOV difference is larger.

22 hours ago, Ninjax said:

6th and final question. When Launching 3d aim trainer from site is it transferring all sens settings? i.e sens 1 and 2  multiplier 1 fov etc?

It doesn't technically transfer the sensitivity values as the calculations are done here on this site, but the FOV and 360 distance of the aim you click and your hipfire are transferred and used in the aim trainer.

[Ninjax]

@DPI Wizard Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions! 

 

Also just a follow up to my question, you mentioned using scale on Apex with 0% MDV. Is there any particular way that I could figure out the exact zoom sensitivity factor of BF3 for 2 scopes with my FoV; RDS and 8X in order to going forward be able to use hipfire and MDV and scale for a better match?

Edit: I also found this chart detailing BF3's zoom sensitivities.

1x (rds): fov 40, speed 0.5: 80 ratio
1x (irons): fov 40, speed 0.5: 80 ratio
holo: fov 32, 0.32 speed: 100 ratio
3.4x: fov 20, 0.36 speed: 55.5556 ratio
4x: 17.2000001, 0.31 speed: 55.4838 ratio
6x: fov 11.6, 0.21 speed: 55.2380 ratio
7x: fov 9.9, 0.21 speed: 47.14 ratio
8x: fov 8.7, 0.16 speed: 54.37 ratio
12x: fov 5.8, 0.11 speed: 52.7272 ratio

the "speed" is what you want to change, factor-wise.

so if you've been using holo (speed 0,32), and want to go to irons/rds (speed 0,5), you want to increase your sensitivity by factor 0,5/0,32 = 1,5625

So: 0.0475*1,5625 = 0,07421875

 

 

ratio = fov/speed

FOV is, indeed, independant of FOV setting

The FOV setting ingame is only for HIPFIRE. Scopes and sights don't really zoom, they just change your FOV.
So even if you have your FOV-setting set to 200, when using a kobra sight it will just go like "nope not on my watch, BAM 40 FOV"

I'm trying to use these to going forward get the best settings for my 2 prefered scopes the RDS and the 8x.

Using this and MDV 0% from my current understand when matching the RDS to my hipfire a scale of 0.8 would be right.

So 360 hipfire BF3 to Warzone ADS with MDV 0% and scale 0.8 would be most accurate

Or am I completely wrong?

 

~PS I understand the hip 0% MDV normally used. But the thing is, I have over 1k hours in BF3 spent mostly with the RDS the 8x and the 12x. I'm not looking to make more muscle memory I'm looking to preserve what I've already earned.

Edited December 5, 2020 by Ninjax

[Ninjax]

@DPI Wizard

Let me rephrase my question. With a FoV of 90 in BF3 when switching to a different scope such as an RDS or 8X. By how much is my sensitivity slowed down? Then How could I use the calculator to match that slow down? 

This would let me match my hipfire to hipfire in different games then match my ADS sens as well. 

 

~PS see my above post

Edited December 7, 2020 by Ninjax

[DPI Wizard]

That chart is indeed correct.

I've added an "All" entry to the BF3 aims so you can see all aims in a single calculation. This way it's easier to see what you need to set the sensitivity to for each scope for it match your preference