Mouse DPI Question.. 1600 vs 3200 DPI Valorant

[lolminhV]

Why should I use 3200 DPI > 1600 DPI ... 

I read something about it skipping pixels if you play high sens and low DPI.

My Zowie mouse has 400,800,1600,3200 DPI settings.

I play on 3200 DPI with 0.1 sens in Valorant. 

Is 3200 DPI okay on a game like Valorant with low sensitivity? 

Would I encounter issues? 

I'm trying to understand how things work lol.

Edited August 13, 2020 by lolminhV

[Merinda18]

u have zero benefits of high dpi,because your sens low 

just use 800dpi its enough for you

[DPI Wizard]

There's a diminishing return to the benefit of high DPI, over a certain point it does practically nothing more.

3200 with 0.1 in Valorant is plenty enough, the difference to 1600 with 0.2 hard to distinguish.

You should stay below 1 pixel/count though (which you are), other than that the most important aspect is that the cursor speed also works for you. Very few games support separate cursor sensitivity, so if you try to play with say 16000 DPI the cursor will be insanely fast and very hard to use in the game.

The only real issue is when you play with 400-800 DPI and high sensitivity.

[fortunate reee]

49 minutes ago, lolminhV said:

Why should I use 3200 DPI > 1600 DPI ... 

I read something about it skipping pixels if you play high sens and low DPI.

My Zowie mouse has 400,800,1600,3200 DPI settings.

I play on 3200 DPI with 0.1 sens in Valorant. 

Is 3200 DPI okay on a game like Valorant with low sensitivity? 

Would I encounter issues? 

I'm trying to understand how things work lol.

certain mice have smoothing that can negatively impact you when going above 1600(=/-)200cpi

same goes for cross game compatibility the higher your dpi is the more issues you can have with games that dont support very low in game sens

400-1600 is a range that i would consider to be enough

bigger isn't always better

 

<out of sheer interest  who told you to do so ?

Edited August 13, 2020 by fortunate reee

[Layead]

Il y a 1 heure, lolminhV a dit :

Why should I use 3200 DPI > 1600 DPI ... 

I read something about it skipping pixels if you play high sens and low DPI.

My Zowie mouse has 400,800,1600,3200 DPI settings.

I play on 3200 DPI with 0.1 sens in Valorant. 

Is 3200 DPI okay on a game like Valorant with low sensitivity? 

Would I encounter issues? 

I'm trying to understand how things work lol.

If you understand french, you can learn in my last youtube video on my profile, i talk about 400/800/1600 dpi and more, and explain how they work and the precision you obtain with all of them

[Quackerjack]

i still use a lower dpi because i dont want this full smooth mouse control. I mean you are a human not a robot and ur hands always shake a tiny bit.

 

But you are right higher dpi is smoother. As fortunate said a lot mices have issues over 1800dpi.

[Layead]

Yes i understand, thats true over 1600/1800 dpi its realy not worth

[lolminhV]

22 hours ago, Quackerjack said:

i still use a lower dpi because i dont want this full smooth mouse control. I mean you are a human not a robot and ur hands always shake a tiny bit.

 

But you are right higher dpi is smoother. As fortunate said a lot mices have issues over 1800dpi.

I don't like that reasoning. 

 

"you are a human not a robot and ur hands always shake a tiny bit."

[lolminhV]

23 hours ago, fortunate reee said:

(=/-)

What does that mean

[Layead]

il y a 13 minutes, lolminhV a dit :

I don't like that reasoning. 

 

"you are a human not a robot and ur hands always shake a tiny bit."

i understand, i prefer do all the best setting if human is not perfect 

[fortunate reee]

13 minutes ago, lolminhV said:

What does that mean

(+/-) with extra steps

[fortunate reee]

17 minutes ago, lolminhV said:

What does that mean

i dont believe in "the  best " when it comes to dpi +polling rate

 

im one of the few  that prefer 500hz over 1000hz

although statistically spoken 1000hz should be superior in most cases

 

its in your best interest to use what feels the best or rather lets you play the best

 

if you go above 800cpi changing your pointer speed is crucial tho 

Edited August 14, 2020 by fortunate reee

[lolminhV]

9 hours ago, fortunate reee said:

pointer speed

Is this the windows mouse settings you are talking about? 

 

I have mines at 6/11 

[fortunate reee]

6 hours ago, lolminhV said:

Is this the windows mouse settings you are talking about? 

 

I have mines at 6/11 

6 /11 is default ie 1x

4/11 is 0.5

3/11 should be 0.25 if i remember correctly

 

you can use any of those without negative impact

 

1600cpi at 4/11 will feel like 800 cpi (just "smoother" )

[Layead]

without negative impact ? you have to put raw input 1 for no impact in game and i m not sure that's true too. 

use mouse mouvment recorder and try other than 6/11 win sens  and look this red screen or red you will have , very not good to put another win sens, its gona broke your memory like every second you use the mouse

[fortunate reee]

1 hour ago, Layead said:

without negative impact ? you have to put raw input 1 for no impact in game and i m not sure that's true too. 

use mouse mouvment recorder and try other than 6/11 win sens  and look this red screen or red you will have , very not good to put another win sens, its gona broke your memory like every second you use the mouse

that couldn't be further away  from the truth  those are perfectly suitable  options

 

what you might be referring to would be windows enhanced pointer precision which yes you should always turn off and instead use povohat or another decent accel

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But 6/11 isn't the ONLY correct option as lots of places seem to state: here is the list of acceptable ones (this post has further correct options but they involve registry edits).

Control panel notch:

• 6/11 --> 1x count multiplier
• 4/11 --> 0.5x count multiplier
• 3/11 --> 0.25x count multiplier
• 2/11 --> (1/16)x count multiplier
• 1/11 --> (1/32)x count multiplier

Why are these valid options? Well you can multiply all the multipliers by a integer to get back to 1x because they're all fractions in the form 1/n

What this means practically is that even with these options you'll never miss an equivalent spot where 6/11 would be correct, so no skipping.

This means if you use a higher DPI for games to be more precise (skip less angles) but it means your desktop sensitivity feels too high for you, you can chose one of these options to get it back to a desktop sensitivity you'd prefer.

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^quoted  skidushe here

 

 

i currently use 800dpi at  4/11 ie feels like a smoother version of 400dpi

 

 

+ "its gona broke your memory like every second you use the mouse"

you can pretty much swap from 400 cpi 2.4 to 800cpi 1.2 without impacting your aim the pointer speed doesn't affect your aim in that case

using a lower windows pointer speed just prevents your cursor from pretending to be sonic the hedgehog whe you are in a games menu or on your desktop

 

Edited August 15, 2020 by fortunate reee

[Layead]

thanks  you dude, you're good 

[bread94]

On 13/08/2020 at 17:26, lolminhV said:

Why should I use 3200 DPI > 1600 DPI ... 

I read something about it skipping pixels if you play high sens and low DPI.

My Zowie mouse has 400,800,1600,3200 DPI settings.

I play on 3200 DPI with 0.1 sens in Valorant. 

Is 3200 DPI okay on a game like Valorant with low sensitivity? 

Would I encounter issues? 

I'm trying to understand how things work lol.

If your Zowie uses a PMW 3360 you should use 2000 dpi at the most because above that, the sensor introduces 32 frames of smoothing.

[Magico.-]

On 14/08/2020 at 03:11, fortunate reee said:

certain mice have smoothing that can negatively impact you when going above 1600(=/-)200cpi

same goes for cross game compatibility the higher your dpi is the more issues you can have with games that dont support very low in game sens

400-1600 is a range that i would consider to be enough

bigger isn't always better

 

<out of sheer interest  who told you to do so ?

Is there a list somewhere of specific mice that introduce mouse smoothing after a certain point? And after which dpi they introduce mouse smoothing?

[fortunate reee]

1 hour ago, Magico.- said:

Is there a list somewhere of specific mice that introduce mouse smoothing after a certain point? And after which dpi they introduce mouse smoothing?

i don t think there is a list like that , has very much to do with different sensor implementations and those largely depend on the manufacturer 

3200 would be the highest id go with some mice but its hit or miss most of the time (at least in my experience)

generally safe to stick to something like 1600 don't think there is a modern sensor that struggles with that 

 

given features liek windows pointer speed there isnt much benefit to going much higher unless you are into acceleration 

Edited January 3, 2021 by fortunate reee

[bread94]

On 03/01/2021 at 07:42, Magico.- said:

Is there a list somewhere of specific mice that introduce mouse smoothing after a certain point? And after which dpi they introduce mouse smoothing?

Here's what I use

[BiccyThiccy]

Pixel-Skipping is an insignificant issue even at 400DPI. The downside of high DPI (some games won't let you lower your sensitivity enough,) outweighs it. 

 

There's a reason why most pros use 400-800 DPI, it's completely fine. 

[Merinda18]

17 minutes ago, BiccyThiccy said:

Pixel-Skipping is an insignificant issue even at 400DPI. The downside of high DPI (some games won't let you lower your sensitivity enough,) outweighs it. 

 

There's a reason why most pros use 400-800 DPI, it's completely fine. 

Reason why pros use 400-800dpi because their sens very low mostly 
if only they doubled their sensitivity ,they will notice pixel skipping