Some general questions

[McKimmister]

Hello!

First of all I want to thank the creators of this site for their work! I've just subscribed to this site and have only been around of a couple days, but I'm already fascinated and hooked by the whole topic of matching aim settings. I already learned a lot, browsing through the board and reading Skidushe's great guide (thank you for that!), but I still have some general questions that I'm not able to answer myself. I hope those are not the same lazy questions you have to answer aaall the time. I really tried my best to solve my problems by myself.

 

1 - Using Monitor Distance

My most played game is Overwatch, so I take it as example. Am I doing this right? If I want to use the 0%-MM-Method (which I read is the best), I type my settings in like in my screenshot and just choose "Monitor Distance - Horizontal" instead of "360 Distance" under "Normal", is that right? I don't need to switch from "Sensitivity" to "Distance" under "Convert" too, right? This is just for when I only have a physical mouse distance instead of a sensitivity?

 

 

2 - Aim

When I choose "All" under "Aim" like I did, the calculator shows me the common values for Ashe and Widow/Ana that you can read in several topics regarding Overwatch all over the net. But when I switch "All" to "Ashe" for instance, suddenly the calculator shows me the value "60". Why is that? What is "All" at all? When I look at the possibilities the calculator gives me for Apex, there is "All /w" (All with ...?) like "All /w 1X" AND "1X Scope" – what's the difference?

 

3 - Apex Legends

I've read that there is no option to set different values for the different optics. The calculator shows me, that I should set "1" for "mouse_zoomed_sensitivity_scalar_0" – is this really all I have to do for the 0%-Method? Will all my optics will be lined up by just putting in "1"?

Another thing that confuses me: I've read in a Reddit-Post that the FOV of Apex is somehow based on a 4:3 ratio instead of 16:9 (like Overwatch). So the person posted a value, that should align the FOV of Apex with the one of Overwatch. If I understand the 0%-MM-Method right, I don't need to do this, when I'm not using the 360-Method, right? Because the 0%-Method is meant to be used for whatever FOV there might is? So I could leave the Apex FOX to default?

 

4 - Resolution (Full HD to WQHD)

I'm using a 27"-WQHD-Display (2560 x 1440 px) but I always play at Full HD (1920 x 1080 px) for performance reasons. When I first tried to play OW at WQHD I instantly felt that my sensitivity wasn't right anymore. So, when I try to convert OW Full HD to OW WQHD everythings stays the same inside the calculator. Why is that? Same thing confuses me when it comes to align my OW settings with my windows/desktop settings: When I try to convert the said settings, the calculator says my windows DPI should be "1170". How can that be the same, when my OW sens is based on 1600 DPI??? If I change that, my OW settings will not longer be the same?

 

That's all I got for the moment. I would REALLY appreciate, if someone would take the time to answer my questions. I'm absolutely aware that this wouldn't be self-evident! I'm sure the answers for my questions are everywhere in this board ... but I have BIG struggles finding them.

 

For you, the person who read all this: Thank you!

[DPI Wizard]

16 minutes ago, McKimmister said:

1 - Using Monitor Distance

I type my settings in like in my screenshot and just choose "Monitor Distance - Horizontal" instead of "360 Distance" under "Normal", is that right? I don't need to switch from "Sensitivity" to "Distance" under "Convert" too, right? This is just for when I only have a physical mouse distance instead of a sensitivity?

Absolutely correct! Also make sure your FOV settings reflect what you have actually set in the game.

17 minutes ago, McKimmister said:

2 - Aim

When I choose "All" under "Aim" like I did, the calculator shows me the common values for Ashe and Widow/Ana that you can read in several topics regarding Overwatch all over the net. But when I switch "All" to "Ashe" for instance, suddenly the calculator shows me the value "60". Why is that? What is "All" at all? When I look at the possibilities the calculator gives me for Apex, there is "All /w" (All with ...?) like "All /w 1X" AND "1X Scope" – what's the difference?

The "All" options calculates all the sensitivity values instantly. This is especially useful for games like BFV where you have a lot of sensitivity variables. So instead of first calculating hipfire, then each and every aim manually the All option does everything for you.

With the specific scope options (like Ashe)  you (usually) have to manually enter some previously calculated value. When you select an aim to convert from like Ashe, the default value for the scope is loaded as a placeholder value that you can override. 

So in Apex "All /w 1X" calculates both hipfire and 1X scope based in your conversion setup. If you just select 1X, you need to enter your hipfire manually. All the different "/w 1X", "/w 2x" etc for Apex (and other games with similar options) are there because the game only supports one scope sensitivity, so you need to choose which scope you would like to calculate for.

 

49 minutes ago, McKimmister said:

3 - Apex Legends

I've read that there is no option to set different values for the different optics. The calculator shows me, that I should set "1" for "mouse_zoomed_sensitivity_scalar_0" – is this really all I have to do for the 0%-Method? Will all my optics will be lined up by just putting in "1"?

Another thing that confuses me: I've read in a Reddit-Post that the FOV of Apex is somehow based on a 4:3 ratio instead of 16:9 (like Overwatch). So the person posted a value, that should align the FOV of Apex with the one of Overwatch. If I understand the 0%-MM-Method right, I don't need to do this, when I'm not using the 360-Method, right? Because the 0%-Method is meant to be used for whatever FOV there might is? So I could leave the Apex FOX to default?

Correct on the zoom sens for Apex, 1 = MDH 0%.

The FOV Type for Apex is indeed based on horizontal degrees in 4:3 aspect ratio. And while MDH 0% can be used between different FOV, matching the FOV is always recommended whenever possible. This will make the consistency as good as possible.

 

57 minutes ago, McKimmister said:

4 - Resolution (Full HD to WQHD)

I'm using a 27"-WQHD-Display (2560 x 1440 px) but I always play at Full HD (1920 x 1080 px) for performance reasons. When I first tried to play OW at WQHD I instantly felt that my sensitivity wasn't right anymore. So, when I try to convert OW Full HD to OW WQHD everythings stays the same inside the calculator. Why is that? Same thing confuses me when it comes to align my OW settings with my windows/desktop settings: When I try to convert the said settings, the calculator says my windows DPI should be "1170". How can that be the same, when my OW sens is based on 1600 DPI??? If I change that, my OW settings will not longer be the same?

For 3D games resolution does not affect sensitivity at all as long is it has the same aspect ratio. Your FOV and 360 distance will be exactly the same. However for 2D it changes a lot, like in Windows or in the game menus etc.

For 2D conversions I think most would prefer MDH 100% and not 0%, as 0% is very slow. If you try that you'll get around 1600 instead.

[McKimmister]

Thank you so much for taking the time to reply (especially in that detail)!

21 minutes ago, DPI Wizard said:

So in Apex "All /w 1X" calculates both hipfire and 1X scope based in your conversion setup. If you just select 1X, you need to enter your hipfire manually. All the different "/w 1X", "/w 2x" etc for Apex (and other games with similar options) are there because the game only supports one scope sensitivity, so you need to choose which scope you would like to calculate for.

Correct on the zoom sens for Apex, 1 = MDH 0%.

The FOV Type for Apex is indeed based on horizontal degrees in 4:3 aspect ratio. And while MDH 0% can be used between different FOV, matching the FOV is always recommended whenever possible. This will make the consistency as good as possible.

Okay, I think I got it! So when I set 1 for MDH 0%, all the sights in Apex behave the same? AS LONG as I use MDH 0%? Because if I set Overwatch to All and Apex to All /w ADS OR All/w 1X and so on, the calculator always shows me the same sensitivity/multiplier? If I'd choose the 360-Method I would only be able to convert my OW settings for ONE optic in Apex?

I saw that there are 5 different values in the Apex config, but also read that they do nothing.

 

33 minutes ago, DPI Wizard said:

The FOV Type for Apex is indeed based on horizontal degrees in 4:3 aspect ratio. And while MDH 0% can be used between different FOV, matching the FOV is always recommended whenever possible. This will make the consistency as good as possible.

Okay, then I will leave the modified FOV in Apex! Thank you! Can the calculator also convert FOVs? Or do I need to find another way to do that?

 

34 minutes ago, DPI Wizard said:

For 3D games resolution does not affect sensitivity at all as long is it has the same aspect ratio. Your FOV and 360 distance will be exactly the same. However for 2D it changes a lot, like in Windows or in the game menus etc.

For 2D conversions I think most would prefer MDH 100% and not 0%, as 0% is very slow. If you try that you'll get around 1600 instead.

Strange! I will investigate that again! I could swear that it felt different (and the aspect ratio was still 16:9). I thought this would have something to do with the amount of pixels or something.

You're right with MDH 100%. It's 1640 then. Would you recommend to switch my DPI to 1640 and convert from Windows to Overwatch? Even though I played with 1600 all the time? Because I don't know of any way to set 1640 DPI ONLY for Windows and stay with 1600 in OW. And when I use MDH 100% for Windows and convert to MDH 0% Overwatch ... is this consistent at all? I thought I was to decide for only ONE percentage?

 

Thank you again!!!

[DPI Wizard]

26 minutes ago, McKimmister said:

Okay, I think I got it! So when I set 1 for MDH 0%, all the sights in Apex behave the same? AS LONG as I use MDH 0%? Because if I set Overwatch to All and Apex to All /w ADS OR All/w 1X and so on, the calculator always shows me the same sensitivity/multiplier? If I'd choose the 360-Method I would only be able to convert my OW settings for ONE optic in Apex?

Correct, with MDH 0% all scopes in Apex will be the same. With any other method they will be different.

28 minutes ago, McKimmister said:

Okay, then I will leave the modified FOV in Apex! Thank you! Can the calculator also convert FOVs? Or do I need to find another way to do that?

You can convert FOVs with the calculator. Just match the FOV Type and FOV value between the games, and check the output for the Config FOV which is what you need to configure to achieve this match. An example here:

30 minutes ago, McKimmister said:

You're right with MDH 100%. It's 1640 then. Would you recommend to switch my DPI to 1640 and convert from Windows to Overwatch? Even though I played with 1600 all the time? Because I don't know of any way to set 1640 DPI ONLY for Windows and stay with 1600 in OW. And when I use MDH 100% for Windows and convert to MDH 0% Overwatch ... is this consistent at all? I thought I was to decide for only ONE percentage?

Most mouse drivers does not actually support such granular DPI settings. In Logitech G Hub for instance you can set the DPI in increments of 1, but in reality it rounds to the nearest 50. Other vendors might round to 100. So I would keep 1600 do avoid any inconsistency.

3D to 3D and 3D to 2D conversions are very different, so the same conversion method does not necessarily feel the same. I find MDH 0% to be way to slow in 2D, but perfect in 3D.

[McKimmister]

Thank you, DPI Wizard!

You've helped me A LOT!

I really think I finally got it!

 

One last question regarding the FOV: If I'm converting the FOV from OW to Apex, I just leave the default FOV Type of Overwatch, right? I don't need to set Hdeg 16:9 instead of Hdeg Res?

So a perfect MDH 0% Conversion from OW to Apex would look like this?

Edited May 29, 2019 by McKimmister

[DPI Wizard]

2 hours ago, McKimmister said:

One last question regarding the FOV: If I'm converting the FOV from OW to Apex, I just leave the default FOV Type of Overwatch, right? I don't need to set Hdeg 16:9 instead of Hdeg Res?

So a perfect MDH 0% Conversion from OW to Apex would look like this?

Correct and correct!