New sensitivity and mouse acceleration options

[bologna]

 

There are new sensitivity and mouse acceleration options available at https://mouseacceleration.com.

The software features an interactive graph with draggable control points for more control.  It also shows motion in real time which makes it easy to configure.

 

Edited August 26, 2019 by bologna

[TheNoobPolice]

how does this differ to Povohats?

[bologna]

6 hours ago, TheNoobPolice said:

how does this differ to Povohats?

Povohat’s solution is definitely a good tool.  I believe it was modeled after the options in Quake Live.

Custom Curve uses different methods to provide a new level of control.  Directly shaping the curve frees you from the restrictions of an exponent.  It’s click and drag, so there is no need for variables to manipulate the curve.  The real-time display of mouse motions in relation to settings makes it easy to understand what’s being represented.  It becomes quick and easy to fine-tune settings customized to your needs.

In short, it’s noob-friendly while also providing the widest range of settings yet.

 

[TheNoobPolice]

It's the same fundamental driver though right? Just a different UI?

Also why does the X and Y differ so much? (edit - oh I see, it's x and y on the graph, not the x and y axis)

I'm also assuming you aren't doing this out of the goodness of your heart, but there's a price to this? How much is it?

Edited March 30, 2019 by TheNoobPolice

[bologna]

On 3/29/2019 at 2:36 PM, TheNoobPolice said:

It's the same fundamental driver though right? Just a different UI?

Yes, they both access the interception driver, but use different formulas for applying settings.  You’ll only be prompted to install interception if you haven’t already.

 

On 3/29/2019 at 2:36 PM, TheNoobPolice said:

Also why does the X and Y differ so much? (edit - oh I see, it's x and y on the graph, not the x and y axis)

Yes.  The X is showing a measurement of how fast you’re sliding the mouse.  We call it “dots per cycle”.  A cycle is 1 millisecond if your mouse polling rate is 1000hz.  The Y value is the sensitivity.  The X and Y values can be set to whatever you want, and the graph can scale to fit the data (just press down on the mouse wheel or hit 'R').

 

On 3/29/2019 at 2:36 PM, TheNoobPolice said:

I'm also assuming you aren't doing this out of the goodness of your heart, but there's a price to this? How much is it?

Can’t it be both?    There is a free trial period of 10 days.  After that, there is a one-time activation fee.  You can activate it for $10 at the moment.  Trying it will likely answer any questions you have.  There is more info on the site and help in the program itself, but it’s designed to be simple.  It’s just the one screen as shown in the GIFs plus some menu options.

 

Edited March 31, 2019 by bologna

[Comrade881]

how to make it to default

cant delete this shit driver from my pc now

Edited March 30, 2019 by Comrade881

[TheNoobPolice]

8 hours ago, bologna said:

Can’t it be both?    There is a free trial period of 10 days.  After that, there is a one-time activation fee.  You can activate it for $10 at the moment.  Trying it will likely answer any questions you have.  There is more info on the site and help in the program itself, but it’s designed to be simple.  It’s just the one screen as shown in the GIFs plus some menu options.

 

Fair enough. I actually think what you are doing is a really good idea. The problem with Povohats / Kovaaks interface is that you are guessing what you meter per second is all the time while you are setting it up and going between game  and interface trying to figure it out. But having the graphical representation should make it extremely simple.

I agree with the above though - if you want to people to try this (and I really think it could be good for more people to try proper accel) you MUST include clear uninstall instructions of both the Interception driver and the Custom Curve interface to completely remove it from a system. People need to feel like they can just go back easil;y before having the confidence to step in. You have to remember that people have massive paranoia about mouse sens, I swear all the people who say "this game feels different I can't aim" when the mouse sens is exactly the same is ridiculous. You need to make it paranoia proof.

Also, good that you accept Paypal - but I'd strongly suggest you also put more info about who you are and who people are paying. Just filling out credit card details in a random site on the internet (albeit a site with great info on it) is always going to seem a bit dodgy.

Edited March 30, 2019 by TheNoobPolice

[TheNoobPolice]

11 hours ago, Comrade881 said:

how to make it to default

cant delete this shit driver from my pc now

I;ve already recommended the OP update the FAQ on how to uninstall, but for yourself...

The uninstaller for the Custom Curve UI interface is in the app data folder.

To uninstall the interception driver it uses, open a command prompt (run as admin) cd to the folder "command line installer" where you downloaded the Custom Curve installer and type "install-interception.exe /uninstall" (without quotes) and then reboot.

[bologna]

Thanks for the feedback.  I’ll see that the FAQ is updated to include driver uninstall instructions.

@Comrade881Simply closing the program will return your mouse to it's default behavior as long as the 'persistent settings' box isn't checked.

The interception driver is used by different applications, so uninstalling it would cause issues with any other program that relies on it.  Leaving it installed *shouldn’t* affect anything, as long as no other programs are activating it through API calls.  At least I’m not aware of anyone having that issue.  But I understand people may want to be sure it’s completely removed.

 

Edited March 30, 2019 by bologna

[TheNoobPolice]

I actually have some more feedback that shouldn't be too hard to implement if you were so inclined....

I think it's really good to use, and managed to create a really good curve that improved upon my previous attempts using the new UI.

But it could really benefit from (correct me if any of these are already in there that I have missed)

1) A ctrl key modifier to keep angle snapped straight lines in either vertical or horizontal directions in the UI when dragging to points, so you don't need to keep editing values manually to correct slight deviations.

2) An option to auto apply after any edit, so you can move things and feel them instantly.

3) Holding shift and scrolling mouse wheel should zoom horizontally, and normally mouse scroll should zoom the view vertically, although the "R" to re-scale feature usually is satisfactory

4) An option to do a "offset" linear curve without having to create 3 extra points and just gang them up on the same spot (I'm sure you know what I mean).

Other than that, it works really well. In fact, even if you don't want to use accel ,its really usefull for just down scaling dpi to keep a slow windows cursor and slow in-games, for example setting all points to 0.125 at 3200 dpi, is the same speed as 1.0 at 400 dpi of course. That's a really handy in itself.

One thing I noticed (presumably due to how the maths are calculated), but lowering your polling rate basically acts to increase sensitivity with a curve, since it reports a higher dots per cycle. It would be great if this was accounted for automatically by having the option to enter polling rate so you could change polling rate without having to modify a curves start and end points.

Edited March 30, 2019 by TheNoobPolice

[bologna]

Thanks for the suggestions.  Additional features are always a consideration.  We’re pretty happy with where it is now, at least enough to start raising awareness.

Some of what you suggest might be more complicated than it sounds.  You’d understand if you looked under the hood, but we’ll keep an open mind for possible solutions and I’ll spare you the complete breakdown.

One that can be ruled out is #2.  Given the amount of control over settings, people could, and likely would, do some really dumb things, e.g., set all values to 0 or 2000.  They must click ‘Apply’ and move the mouse to click ‘OK’ to confirm changes (keyboard shortcuts don’t work on that button and it never spawns under the cursor).  This ensures the mouse remains in an operable state.

Feel free to use the feedback email on the web site.

[TheNoobPolice]

Regarding 2, surely a simple ctrl-z undo feature would solve that?

Alternatively a hotkey for "Apply" (probably a modifier command so it doesn't occur accidentally) would be awesome. 

Still I really like it, and I think it's well worth the cash personally. I've spread the word to a few mates.

 

Edited March 31, 2019 by TheNoobPolice

[bologna]

22 hours ago, TheNoobPolice said:

I've spread the word to a few mates.

Glad to hear it. 

 

22 hours ago, TheNoobPolice said:

Regarding 2, surely a simple ctrl-z undo feature would solve that?

Alternatively a hotkey for "Apply" (probably a modifier command so it doesn't occur accidentally) would be awesome. 

You bring up a good point.  There are some other considerations.  The hotkey option might work.  I’ve sent you a pm rather than getting into the weeds here.

 

[WhoCares?]

Could this programm falsely detected by anti-cheat software?

[bologna]

FACEIT recently incorrectly labeled the Interception driver as a cheat and we are in the process of appealing.  We were considering creating another driver, but they could just eventually incorrectly label that as a cheat too.  It would require much effort and it’s unrealistic for us to keep creating new drivers each time this happens, so we have chosen to appeal.

The Interception driver is nothing more than a tool which allows for the modification of keyboard and mouse input.  It’s hardly any different from any modern gaming keyboard or device that allows the creation of scripts or macros.  It has no knowledge of any specific game code.  It would have to be used in conjunction with some other program (an actual cheat) that is keeping track of what’s happening in a specific game.  That is where the anti-cheat effort should be.  Unfortunately, FACEIT has taken the easy way out in this instance resulting in draconian measures.

For now, all I can recommend is to avoid playing on the FACEIT platform or appeal to them if you wish to play there with the options provided in Custom Curve.

The plan is to eventually reach out to partner with mice companies, hopefully making our options standard, once enough interest or demand has been demonstrated.

Edited August 26, 2019 by bologna

[TheNoobPolice]

Just to be clear in addition to Bologna's points above, FACEIT are not "banning" for this, they are "blocking" it. If you try and use FACEIT it will simply ask you to uninstall the interception driver before it allows you to continue, but it doesn't ban your account.

This, as Bologna says, is a very lazy way to protect against some potential exploits. It'd be a bit like banning any 3rd party program that is using the win32 api, because "some cheats use it!"

Exactly.

Still, the custom curve app and a good accel solution is more important to my gaming than any one game, so I will just try and avoid games where it is an issue.

[WhoCares?]

Thank you for the response about anti cheat! I am relieved now and had no trouble so far

I put the programm in the auto-start folder in AppData, but corrently the programm always starts up in a window. Would it possible to add an option for starting minimized or better; minimized in the system-icon-tray?

Edited August 28, 2019 by WhoCares?

[bologna]

If you check the 'persistent settings' box, you can close the GUI and keep your settings.

Under the 'options' menu, you can also check 'apply settings at logon' which will apply your settings when you log on without loading the GUI at all.

Also, we haven't completely ruled out developing a proprietary driver, but it's not the kind of thing that can be done overnight.  We're still exploring our options.

If you have any more questions, feel free to use the email or discord links on the website.

[WhoCares?]

Allright, I bought a key

But I want to report a huge in version 9-5-19:

When ticking persistent setting and ending the GUI, the curser doesn't detect small mouse movements at all. The cursor just get stuck, until I raise the velocity of my hand to a certain threshold. This does not occur when the GUI is still opened in the Background, just when exiting it. Also this did not happen in version  6-8-19 for me.

 

EDIT: I solved the problem by uninstalling the old interception driver which came with version 6-8-19 and install the one from the newer version.

When I uninstlled the old GUI it kept the old interception driver and this might interferred with the new GUI (i think)

Edited September 8, 2019 by WhoCares?

[bologna]

Sorry you ran into this issue.  The driver has not changed at all.  Installing on top of the old without uninstalling could cause this since it'd keep the old settings file.  The structure of the settings file was changed recently to support the Y-Axis modifier for independent pitch or up/down sensitivity.  Just clicking 'apply' would solve the issue since it updates the settings file.