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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, fortunate reee said:

apex legends uses 0% monitor distance (matching at cross hair for ideal tracking ) (it isn't actually broken when set to default scaling , most users aren't used to it scopes getting slower with high zoom this can feel off  )

the per scope scalars have some flaws to them with different zooms  to them so it is far better to stick to a  0% type matching

cod defaults to 1.3333 /133%vertical monitor distance these days , but gives you the option to use 0% too

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=2891e98e802fe1fccdb6b3080c29e75e

^this would be 0% match at 0.7 ads

 

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=9dee7b690fe749001b4d1cf0a11e81ed

this would be 133.333% vertical^  at 0.7

 

image.png.746487070041345b407d038450ee2ca4.png 0.7= 70% /1.0 = 100% etc

 

the 133.33333% vertical can be replaced by any method of scope scaling you prefer

0% hor / vert / 100% hor / 177.78 %vert  and plenty more multiple of those

are mentioned i the instructions

Thanks. 133.333% vertical^  at 0.7 seems more correct to me. 0% vertical gives me all scopes 0.7 on apex and that's weird to play. I've been playing like that forever.

 

For COD, should I use ADS "Relative" with 0 oe 1.33 monitor distance coefficient?

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Posted
12 hours ago, ruk1_br said:

Thanks. 133.333% vertical^  at 0.7 seems more correct to me. 0% vertical gives me all scopes 0.7 on apex and that's weird to play. I've been playing like that forever.

 

For COD, should I use ADS "Relative" with 0 oe 1.33 monitor distance coefficient?

relative is the go to ,since legacy is only for old timers not usefull for 99% of players

in the end of the day scope scaling is preference after all :) happy to help

Posted (edited)

 hello , Apex is my first first person shooter, I play on  24.5" BenQ 1920x1080 monitor. 2.8 sensitivity in game with 500dpi and 110 fov. does it work if i convert apex to apex to match hipfire and ads sensitivity for all  ? @DPI Wizard

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Posted
43 minutes ago, ziRaidenx said:

 hello , Apex is my first first person shooter, I play on  24.5" BenQ 1920x1080 monitor. 2.8 sensitivity in game with 500dpi and 110 fov. does it work if i convert apex to apex to match hipfire and ads sensitivity for all  ? @DPI Wizard

Yes, that works. You don't even have to convert to Apex, just selecting the All aim and entering your sensitivity will convert all scopes based on this. Do note that the default setup in the calculator is exactly the same as how Apex scales the scopes, so you will get 1 as all the values unless you have changed it.

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=0563f2c90b0f5107ce6c8148b287cd94

Posted (edited)
47 minutes ago, DPI Wizard said:

Yes, that works. You don't even have to convert to Apex, just selecting the All aim and entering your sensitivity will convert all scopes based on this. Do note that the default setup in the calculator is exactly the same as how Apex scales the scopes, so you will get 1 as all the values unless you have changed it.

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=0563f2c90b0f5107ce6c8148b287cd94

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=3578b2394f1358c785958fd38790d806

I tried these settings in game by changing it in settings.cfg , ads feels slower than hipfire @DPI Wizard

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Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, fortunate reee said:

relative is the go to ,since legacy is only for old timers not usefull for 99% of players

in the end of the day scope scaling is preference after all :) happy to help

Is there any video or tutorial explaining with more details the difference between percentages on 'monitor distance'? I've read the 'instructions' but it was not clear to me... I'm probably kind of slow :( @DPI Wizard

I thought monitor distance 25% or 100% would be the same....

Edited by ruk1_br
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Posted
Just now, ruk1_br said:

Is there any video or tutorial explaining with more details the difference between percentages on 'monitor distance'? I've read the 'instructions' but it was not clear to me... I'm probably kind of slow :( @DPI Wizard

There's several videos in the instructions post showing exactly what monitor distance is. In short 0% is tracking speed, 100% is matching the distance between the cross hair and the edge of the monitor, any other percentage is related to this. So 50% is half way between the cross hair and edge etc.

Posted (edited)
7 minutes ago, DPI Wizard said:

There's several videos in the instructions post showing exactly what monitor distance is. In short 0% is tracking speed, 100% is matching the distance between the cross hair and the edge of the monitor, any other percentage is related to this. So 50% is half way between the cross hair and edge etc.

I've seen the videos and it's still kind of confusing to me. Gonna spend more time on this.... I play 3 different games, but if I'm adsing and an enemy appears in the edge of the monitor,  I want to move my mouse on mousepad the same distance in all 3 games to reach him (regardless if its 2x, 3x, 10x) .... what method would you recommend? Is that the best way to create 'muscle memory'?

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Posted
2 minutes ago, ruk1_br said:

I play 3 different games, but if I'm adsing and an enemy appears in the edge of the monitor,  I want to move my mouse on mousepad the same distance in all 3 games to reach him (regardless if its 2x, 3x, 10x) .... what method would you recommend? Is that the best way to create 'muscle memory'?

In this case MDH 100% would be best. The caveat is that for any matching method you choose, all others will be slightly off. So if you want flicking to the edge to be the same, tracking a moving target will be different, as will flicking to something halfway between your cross hair and edge. There is no best way for muscle memory, but the most important thing is that you stay consistent with what method you use.

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

I'm playing 2560x1440 and I'm using sens 1.8 and it tells me same 360 degrees for 1x scope would be 1.28 something but when Im hipfiring it just feels like I cant track for shit but when Im adsing it feels like I have an easier time following targets even if they are in my face. This doesnt feel accurate?

Posted
7 hours ago, philheath said:

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It's correct in both.

Apex [bad implemented] in-game FOV scale:  110 hipfire FOV -> 1x FOV = 93.896104

That converted to HFOV looks like this: 123.268762 hipfire FOV -> 1x FOV = 109.119302

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Posted (edited)

Yep, that's so you can see that the calculator and Aimlab (which, I think, got the values from this site) are correct. 

In the first image you can see that with 110 in-game hipfire FOV you get 109.119302 (16:9) HFOV for the 1x scope. 

In the second image you can confirm that 109.119302 (16:9) HFOV would be 93.896104 Apex in-game FOV. Aimlab is using this [broken] scale for everything, including the scopes, because that's what you selected in the settings menu.

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Posted
1 hour ago, philheath said:

YOU are comparing all (which is hipfire) to 1x scope, completely different

Aimlab is showing the in-game value which is close to 4:3 FOV:

image.png

Posted

The field of view value in Aim Lab is the game's fov value.

If you want to compare the 'Actual VFOV' and 'Actual HFOV', you need to enable to Advanced Field of View Options. It will then show the rendered vertical, horizontal, and diagonal fov. You will then see the same result.

  • 2 weeks later...
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Posted
26 minutes ago, Quackerjack said:

If FOV is halved, the sensitivity would be halved.

Isn't it then MDH 100%?

For horizontal FOV that is resolution based yes, but Apex uses 4:3 FOV, so this equates to MDV 133.3333%.

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted (edited)

  Hello @DPI Wizard,

On 7/2/2020 at 6:37 PM, DPI Wizard said:

Calculations for Apex are correct, no question about it as it is based on a standard Source sensitivity.

On 7/2/2020 at 6:40 PM, fortunate reee said:

when the calculator is "  image.png.34080fde7263326fdd5e0a7ccf2d2a64.png"

just like all the other times it wasnt

I'm just letting you know, that FOV calculations are wrong for resolution ratio below 1,6. I guess no one noticed it, because it's not affecting 360° distance.

Same mistake here: https://jscalc-blog.com/apex-legends-calculator/

I'm sending you correction in Excel format:

Vertical resolution = Resolution set in game

Vertical resolution2 = Real rendered resolution = IF(horizontal resolution/Vertical resolution<=1,6;horizontal resolution/1,6;Vertical resolution)

HFOV = 2*DEGREES(ATAN(TAN(RADIANS(VFOV/2))*horizontal resolution/Vertical resolution2))

you're welcome :D

Edited by MacSquirrel_Jedi
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Posted
17 minutes ago, MacSquirrel_Jedi said:

  Hello DPI Wizard,

I'm just letting you know, that FOV calculations are wrong for resolution ratio below 1,6. I guess no one noticed it, because it's not affecting 360° distance.

Same mistake here: https://jscalc-blog.com/apex-legends-calculator/

I'm sending you correction in Excel format:

Vertical resolution = Resolution set in game

Vertical resolution2 = Real rendered resolution = IF(horizontal resolution/Vertical resolution<=1,6;horizontal resolution/1,6;Vertical resolution)

HFOV = 2*DEGREES(ATAN(TAN(RADIANS(VFOV/2))*horizontal resolution/Vertical resolution2))

you're welcome :D

Nothing wrong in the calculator, you just need to select the correct aspect ratio when the game adds black bars ;)

https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com/?share=360bf5894a24652d9052ae65ba679ed6

Posted (edited)
56 minutes ago, DPI Wizard said:

Nothing wrong in the calculator, you just need to select the correct aspect ratio when the game adds black bars

:D nice try. It's working. BUT why anyone would want to fill 16:10 black bars, when game resolution is 4:3 (1280x960) = 1,33 < 1,6 . Without knowing this problem? It should be automated in calculator.

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Edited by MacSquirrel_Jedi
Posted (edited)
16 hours ago, MacSquirrel_Jedi said:

:D nice try. It's working. BUT why anyone would want to fill 16:10 black bars, when game resolution is 4:3 (1280x960) = 1,33 < 1,6 . Without knowing this problem? It should be automated in calculator.

1707812922_Beznzvu.png.7321f518cc6b8ed2fe83e31a01d427a5.png

again -> image.png.79a877d87cb7085be6a1b9720c341202.png why not ask dpiwiz before assuming

 

why would you do that in any reasonable scenario

the option works well when you use it as intended

image.png

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