Arramis Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 27 minutes ago, stereo3D said: unfortunately the calculator assumes that you leave the coefficient at default 1.33 but then your ads sens would only be correct with a reflex sight. since you want it to be correct with every sight you should leave the ads multi at 1 and instead change the coefficient to 1.72 Hi, this is very helpful information. I was wondering how you figured out 1.72 from 49 relative sens in overwatch. I use 38 relative, and wanted to do the same for black ops scopes too. Also, if its possible to make your sense compatible across all scopes this way, why is this not default for the calculator?
stereo3D Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) simply adjust the MDV % in the conversion setup until you get your widowmaker sens. in you case it's 10 % = 0.1 coefficient in bo4 (bf1, bf4, etc...) not sure tbh, @DPI Wizard would have to answer that. Edited November 1, 2018 by stereo3D
Arramis Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, stereo3D said: simply adjust the MDV % in the conversion setup until you get your widowmaker sens. in you case it's 10 % = 0.1 coefficient in bo4 (bf1, bf4, etc...) not sure tbh, @dpiwizard would have to answer that. Thanks! Also, why monitor distance vertical, and not horizontal?
stereo3D Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) because that's what bo4 and bf games use. at 16:9 both MDH 100 % and MDV 178 % would be the same, but only the latter would give you the correct sens in those games. Edited November 1, 2018 by stereo3D
Wizard DPI Wizard Posted November 1, 2018 Author Wizard Posted November 1, 2018 2 hours ago, stereo3D said: unfortunately the calculator assumes that you leave the coefficient at default 1.33 I missed something here, in what scenario do you mean?
stereo3D Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 i was thinking it would be convenient, if the calculator automatically matched the coefficient of the game with your conversion setup instead of simply calculating the ADS multiplier.
Wizard DPI Wizard Posted November 1, 2018 Author Wizard Posted November 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, stereo3D said: i was thinking it would be convenient, if the calculator automatically matched the coefficient of the game with your conversion setup instead of simply calculating the ADS multiplier. Gotcha, like the USA Coefficient calculation for BF1 (works on the old version, but currently broken on 7.x, will fix it next). Which is actually impossible to calculate with a formula AFAIK, but I've got a script that does it. I should be able to do some minor modifications to the script and make it work with BO4.
Arramis Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 @stereo3D @DPI Wizard im sorry guys i thought i understood how to do this, but I'm horribly confused again. Do i make my vertical monitor distance, and my coefficient the same number?
stereo3D Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 yes. change ADS mouse sens from legacy to relative. then set "sensitivity 2" to 0.1 for MDV 10 %.
Arramis Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 @stereo3D Thank you so much. I understand basically nothing of how this works. Is there something you could link me to, to understand this better? I've read a few of the informative threads on here, but this completely made no sense to me.
stereo3D Posted November 1, 2018 Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) as you probably noticed, calculating the hip-fire sens is straight forward, because you can simply match FOV and sens to OW. but with zoom sens you run into the problem that there is no "widow maker scope" with fov 51 in bo4. and when the FOVs are different, then you have to scale sensitivity to make them "feel" the same. now, some people prefer MDV 0 %, some may prefer MDV 178 % at 16:9 and others something in between. (imho it's subjective, but some say 0 % is the best because math, basically.) but since you already know your preferred relative sens in OW you only have to find out which MDV % this equates to and use that for bo4. Edited November 1, 2018 by stereo3D
RoidZ Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) This is the first time playing COD on PC, I am an avid CSGO player and just wondering if this setup is correct out of the box? Do I need to change anything with the percentages of ADS and scope? And would it be best to leave ADS FOV on affected? If it matters I am a rifler in CS so not overly concerned matching AWP sensitivities. All these new options are quite overwhelming. Thanks in advance. Edited November 2, 2018 by RoidZ Spelling
RexVoluntas Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 You should set your Black Ops FOV to 106.26 in the config file to match CSGO. Im not sure about the other settings though.
stereo3D Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, RoidZ said: This is the first time playing COD on PC, I am an avid CSGO player and just wondering if this setup is correct out of the box? Do I need to change anything with the percentages of ADS and scope? And would it be best to leave ADS FOV on affected? If it matters I am a rifler in CS so not overly concerned matching AWP sensitivities. All these new options are quite overwhelming. assuming your zoom sens in csgo is at default 1 (= MDV 133 %): fov = "106.26" mouse_sensitivity = "3.43038" mouse_ads_monitor_distance_coefficient = "1.33333" mouse_ads_yaw_ads_multiplier = "1.00000"
RoidZ Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 Have no idea how you got that, but thank you very much! @stereo3D
Arramis Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 On 02/11/2018 at 00:52, stereo3D said: as you probably noticed, calculating the hip-fire sens is straight forward, because you can simply match FOV and sens to OW. but with zoom sens you run into the problem that there is no "widow maker scope" with fov 51 in bo4. and when the FOVs are different, then you have to scale sensitivity to make them "feel" the same. now, some people prefer MDV 0 %, some may prefer MDV 178 % at 16:9 and others something in between. (imho it's subjective, but some say 0 % is the best because math, basically.) but since you already know your preferred relative sens in OW you only have to find out which MDV % this equates to and use that for bo4. Thanks for explaining, and yes i did notice the hipfire thing. I've attached a snap of how i've inputed what you showed me, because it feels abysmal to aim with. I generally am quite accurate in overwatch however using these settings my aim is awful, would you have any idea why? I also had a few other questions, Why is using this method better than just modifying the Bo4 coefficient to be equivalent to 38 relative sense in Overwatch? What's the math to get 0.1 from 38? and what is the difference between "all w/ ADS" and "all w/ scope"?
stereo3D Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 first, select overwatch ALL and the calculator will also calculate the relative aim sens. then adjust the MDV for scope and you should see that the relative sens changes as well. MDV 10 % will result in 38 relative sens. MDV 10 % is 0.1 MD coefficient in bo4.
Arramis Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 But when you change the coefficient the relative aim sens doesnt change?
pervysage Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 Wait a second, so BO4 uses MDV rather than MDH like other games like Overwatch? In my past messing around with the calculator, I did find using the vertical options in the conversion options felt better to me in BO4.
potato psoas Posted November 2, 2018 Posted November 2, 2018 26 minutes ago, pervysage said: Wait a second, so BO4 uses MDV rather than MDH like other games like Overwatch? In my past messing around with the calculator, I did find using the vertical options in the conversion options felt better to me in BO4. There is no difference between vertical and horizontal matching. If you match 100% vertical it would translate to something like 56.25% horizontal (with a 16:9 monitor, since 9/16 = 0.5625). It's all very arbitrary. 0% monitor match, however, will be the same for both horizontal and vertical.
Arramis Posted November 3, 2018 Posted November 3, 2018 7 hours ago, stereo3D said: do you mean the "sensitivity 2" field? Yes
nielsenrc Posted November 6, 2018 Posted November 6, 2018 When converting from Overwatch, is "ADS Reflex" the best option since there aren't individual sensitivities for each scope in BO4?
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