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https://www.reddit.com/r/Competitiveoverwatch/comments/8otdvc/each_increment_of_zoom_sensitivity_accounts_for/ basicly this, am i on the wrong side of the fence here trying to tell these headless noodles what to do? or am i actually telling em what's right? They made me doubt after they kept shit talking to me.

 

I'dd like to see wizard reply to this matter, they are calling your site out for being a "scam" pretty much

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Alright I'm probably just taking the bait like everyone else but assuming you aren't trolling here's where you're wrong:

1. This thread isn't even about what zoom sensitivity is best, it's asking for more precise settings.

2. 38, while my preference and recommendation, isn't exactly the same as hipfire, nothing is or can be due to the FOV difference.

3. This image has a couple things wrong with it, which aren't entirely your fault.

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The "1 inch mouse movement" line is just flat out wrong in many different ways.

"Discrepancy" is unclear. It's not "discrepancy between Hipfire and ADS", but rather "discrepancy due to lack of decimal places." E.g. if you could only set zoom sensitivity in sets of 10, the closest to 38 you could set would be 40. This is a discrepancy of 5.2% (40/38~=1.052)

@DPI Wizard you probably want to fix or remove the "1 inch mouse movement" thing.

No matter what you type in as the match distance, it will say that 1 inch mouse movement will be matched on screen at the same distance.

Also the "1 inch mouse movement" changes in hipfire by just changing match distance. For example in the image 1 inch mouse movement in hipfire is supposedly 4.5474 inches, but if you change it to 100% then the same mouse movement in hipfire now supposedly moves crosshair 6.4339 inches.

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That's what has been bamboozling me, i have constantly went with the 0% for 2nd zooms on everything to match hipfire.

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5 hours ago, Skwuruhl said:

@DPI Wizard you probably want to fix or remove the "1 inch mouse movement" thing.

No matter what you type in as the match distance, it will say that 1 inch mouse movement will be matched on screen at the same distance.

Also the "1 inch mouse movement" changes in hipfire by just changing match distance. For example in the image 1 inch mouse movement in hipfire is supposedly 4.5474 inches, but if you change it to 100% then the same mouse movement in hipfire now supposedly moves crosshair 6.4339 inches.

It's the ratio of the match distance (i.e. X inches = Y degrees) converted to physical distance and normalized so the ratios are directly comparable on both sides of the equation. Technically the wording should be something like "The ratio of movement between the mouse and the crosshair to the selected monitor match distance of 75% is 1:21.5237". It's there to make it easier for people to see what value is actually being matched in the calculation, and if it's not perfectly matched how far off it is. But the wording can be confusing indeed, it's probably best changed to base length or something.

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Base length still doesn't make sense here. I'm not even really sure what it's supposed to be?

I think what would be more clear is something like 

hipfire
Crosshair Movement:	10.4589 inches
Mouse Movement:		1.8295 inches
Degree Movement:	51.5 degrees

ads
Crosshair Movement:	10.4589 inches
Mouse Movement:		1.8118 inches
Degree Movement:	25.5 degrees

This way it's somewhat more clear that 10.46 inches on the monitor is a 1.8 inch mouse movement across both zoom levels.

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7 minutes ago, Skwuruhl said:

Base length still doesn't make sense here. I'm not even really sure what it's supposed to be?

I think what would be more clear is something like 


hipfire
Crosshair Movement:	10.4589 inches
Mouse Movement:		1.8295 inches
Degree Movement:	51.5 degrees

ads
Crosshair Movement:	10.4589 inches
Mouse Movement:		1.8118 inches
Degree Movement:	25.5 degrees

This way it's somewhat more clear that 10.46 inches on the monitor is a 1.8 inch mouse movement across both zoom levels.

Yeah, base ratio or something would be more fitting. What I initially wanted to avoid was very small numbers as you get with low match %. Like with 1% in your example would be:

hipfire
Crosshair Movement:	0.1049 inches
Mouse Movement:		0.0256 inches
Degree Movement:	0.72 degrees

ads
Crosshair Movement:	0.1046 inches
Mouse Movement:		0.0255 inches
Degree Movement:	0.27 degrees

But this might not be a problem after all :)

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3 minutes ago, DPI Wizard said:

Yeah, base ratio or something would be more fitting. What I initially wanted to avoid was very small numbers as you get with low match %. Like with 1% in your example would be:


hipfire
Crosshair Movement:	0.1049 inches
Mouse Movement:		0.0256 inches
Degree Movement:	0.72 degrees

ads
Crosshair Movement:	0.1046 inches
Mouse Movement:		0.0255 inches
Degree Movement:	0.27 degrees

But this might not be a problem after all :)

I mean you already have two small numbers with 

1% rotation: 0.065 cm = 0.72 degrees

as an alternative for 0% (since there isn't really a distance to display anymore) you could list the zoom ratio.

like

hipfire
360° distance:	32.4843 cm
FOV:	103

ads
Zoom:		2.6357x
360° distance:	85.4849 cm
FOV:		51

You could even just always have the zoom amount listed.

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