SevenFreak Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 I belive the calculator for Rainbow Six is not accurate - by trying to calculate the multiplier for the ini-file for 28cm/360, the calc tells me a (smaller) value which doesnt give me a 360 turn in-game, maybe its just a 340 or something.
Wizard DPI Wizard Posted January 9, 2016 Author Wizard Posted January 9, 2016 I belive the calculator for Rainbow Six is not accurate - by trying to calculate the multiplier for the ini-file for 28cm/360, the calc tells me a (smaller) value which doesnt give me a 360 turn in-game, maybe its just a 340 or something. What values are you getting, and what are you entering? A screenshot would be nice
Wizard DPI Wizard Posted January 9, 2016 Author Wizard Posted January 9, 2016 I was talking with you on converting my BF 4 ADS 360 rotation, which should be 7.81452 based on my understanding [7.0 inch Hipfire 360 x 1.116360 multiplier, using a Coyote sight with non-uniform aiming enabled]. I am using a 800 dpi with a GstInput.MouseSensitivity 0.023050 I am trying to achieve the same thing in R6 Siege, using a standard Holographic sight. I now understand the difference between simple and non-simple for the calculator. That said, can you confirm if the following settings would achieve my goal. DPI=800 MouseSensitivity=50 MouseSensitivityMultiplierUnit=0.004488 AimDownSightsMouse=50 XFactorAiming=0.055835 Thanks... Odedge I haven't analyzed the Holo sight actually, if it's not the same as the iron sight, I need to analyze it.
SevenFreak Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) What values are you getting, and what are you entering? A screenshot would be nice Hi, Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/kXvPUFr.png Values from the current ini-file (and yes I used the 4.0 calculator). [iNPUT] InvertAxisY=0 InvertMouseAxisY=0 Rumble=0 AimAssist=0 YawSensitivity=2 PitchSensitivity=1 DeadzoneLeftStick=15 DeadzoneRightStick=15 MouseSensitivity=50 MouseSensitivityMultiplierUnit=0.002850 XFactorAiming=0.033333 --> used this value from the reddit-post above in order to get the same distance for ADS and Hipfire (but only tested with iron sights so far). ToggleAim=0 ToggleLean=1 ToggleSprint=0 ToggleCrouch=1 ToggleProne=1 ToggleWalk=1 AimDownSights=50 AimDownSightsMouse=50 ControlSchemeIndex=0 ControllerInputDevice=0 But tbh - I tried to double-check the calculator by trying to convert from another game to Rainbow Six (in this case it was Depth). By using 28cm for 360, the calc gave me a sensitivity value of 74% for Depth - actually I´m using 80% for 360 in Depth. Edited January 9, 2016 by Nunner Martin
SevenFreak Posted January 9, 2016 Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) ok, that means ironsights/1x optics have a 0.9 fov multiplier and a 0.6 sens multiplier. imho it's best for muscle memory when fov multiplier and sens multiplier are identical. in order to achieve this the calculation is: 0.9/0.6/0.02=75 AimDownSightsMouse=75 XFactorAiming=0.020000 the only difference to csgo is that r6 siege uses vertical fov, whereas csgo scales with horizontal fov based on 4:3, but the difference is miniscule. Srsly, I dont understand this calculation - based on the post from Mollikye in reddit, you basically need to set the XFactorAimings to 0.033333 in order to get the same sensitivity for ADS as Hipfire or I´m getting something wrong? Edited January 9, 2016 by Nunner Martin
Wizard DPI Wizard Posted January 9, 2016 Author Wizard Posted January 9, 2016 Hi, Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/kXvPUFr.png Values from the current ini-file (and yes I used the 4.0 calculator). [iNPUT] InvertAxisY=0 InvertMouseAxisY=0 Rumble=0 AimAssist=0 YawSensitivity=2 PitchSensitivity=1 DeadzoneLeftStick=15 DeadzoneRightStick=15 MouseSensitivity=50 MouseSensitivityMultiplierUnit=0.002850 XFactorAiming=0.033333 --> used this value from the reddit-post above in order to get the same distance for ADS and Hipfire (but only tested with iron sights so far). ToggleAim=0 ToggleLean=1 ToggleSprint=0 ToggleCrouch=1 ToggleProne=1 ToggleWalk=1 AimDownSights=50 AimDownSightsMouse=50 ControlSchemeIndex=0 ControllerInputDevice=0 But tbh - I tried to double-check the calculator by trying to convert from another game to Rainbow Six (in this case it was Depth). By using 28cm for 360, the calc gave me a sensitivity value of 74% for Depth - actually I´m using 80% for 360 in Depth. Just tested that nothing changed with the last patch, and the calculations are correct. However, you are probably not getting 28 cm / 360 because of sensor inaccuracy, have you tried the DPI Analyzer to check what your real DPI is? Srsly, I dont understand this calculation - based on the post from Mollikye in reddit, you basically need to set the XFactorAimings to 0.033333 in order to get the same sensitivity for ADS as Hipfire or I´m getting something wrong? If MouseSensitivity and AimDownSightsMouse are set to 50, 0.033333 is indeed correct.
stereo3D Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Srsly, I dont understand this calculation - based on the post from Mollikye in reddit, you basically need to set the XFactorAimings to 0.033333 in order to get the same sensitivity for ADS as Hipfire or I´m getting something wrong? this will give you the same distance/360, but not the same ratio. (10 % fov reduction, 0 % sensitivity reduction) e.g. with acog scope XFactorAiming=0.066667 gives you the same distance/360 as hip-fire, but it will feel much faster because the fov is way lower.
SevenFreak Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) Just tested that nothing changed with the last patch, and the calculations are correct. However, you are probably not getting 28 cm / 360 because of sensor inaccuracy, have you tried the DPI Analyzer to check what your real DPI is? If MouseSensitivity and AimDownSightsMouse are set to 50, 0.033333 is indeed correct. Hi, Thanks for the fast response - I didn´t test it yet accurate with the DPI Analyzer but will do now. Does it matter if I switch the Windows settings to 3 or 4 for the test? (Normally using 6) since with 800DPI and Windows Setting set to 6, the longest possible distance is about 5.5cm. Edit: A "fast" test showed me a DPI value of 745 - is it normal that the DPI value is way off? I´m using a Zowie ZA11 (ADNS-3310). this will give you the same distance/360, but not the same ratio. (10 % fov reduction, 0 % sensitivity reduction) e.g. with acog scope XFactorAiming=0.066667 gives you the same distance/360 as hip-fire, but it will feel much faster because the fov is way lower. This is pretty annoying since you would need two XFactor Aiming values for the 1x scopes and the 2.5x scopes...(btw how did you calculate now the 0.066667 value? - currently I´m trying to understand the calc stuff)... Edited January 10, 2016 by Nunner Martin
stereo3D Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 according to the dev post both fov and sens for the acog scope are reduced by 70 % = 0.3 multiplier.XFactorAiming=0.02/0.3=0.0666667 i get ~760 with my avior 7000 and ~725 with a roccat savu at 800 dpi. iirc it was ~415 with a msie 3.0.
SevenFreak Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 Thank you stero! One more question - so after knowing my real DPI value, I tried again to convert my settings from Depth to R6. By using all the values with 28cm - the final result was at R6 (fov 70) a ratio of about 6,6cm in-game movement by 1cm mouse movement - compared to Depth which was about 5,7cm for 1cm mouse movement with my used settings, this was kinda off. Is it the main goal to get at the 1cm mouse movement also the same values for both games? Its possible since I just need to modify the fov of R6, but I´m kinda new to this. Thanks in advance.
Wizard DPI Wizard Posted January 10, 2016 Author Wizard Posted January 10, 2016 Edit: A "fast" test showed me a DPI value of 745 - is it normal that the DPI value is way off? I´m using a Zowie ZA11 (ADNS-3310). Unfortunately, yes. Up to 10% off plus or minus seem to be pretty common. Thank you stero! One more question - so after knowing my real DPI value, I tried again to convert my settings from Depth to R6. By using all the values with 28cm - the final result was at R6 (fov 70) a ratio of about 6,6cm in-game movement by 1cm mouse movement - compared to Depth which was about 5,7cm for 1cm mouse movement with my used settings, this was kinda off. Is it the main goal to get at the 1cm mouse movement also the same values for both games? Its possible since I just need to modify the fov of R6, but I´m kinda new to this. Thanks in advance. You get different ratio because the FOV is different. I'm working on a ratio conversion, so you can match ratio between games, but it's not ready yet. When it comes to what the goal is, this is a personal preference. Some prefer a constant 360 distance, others prefer a constant "2D" distance, i.e. ratio. There's no wrong or right here, just what you prefer
SevenFreak Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 Hey Wizard, Thank you for the explanation - ye I increased the FOV at R6 until I got the same ratio as I have in Depth which feels more familiar. Anyway it´s a great tool which I will use from now on. DPI Wizard 1
Fedorasfact Posted February 6, 2016 Posted February 6, 2016 Hi, is any ways to make same sensivity in ads and hipfire mode?
Wizard DPI Wizard Posted February 6, 2016 Author Wizard Posted February 6, 2016 Hi, is any ways to make same sensivity in ads and hipfire mode? Absolutely, just do like this
Fedorasfact Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 (edited) Thanks a lot :333 Upd. I am right that to achive same distance and sensivity in my sitiation i should change value MouseSensitivityMultiplierUnit in my settings file to 0.005320?) GameSettings.txt Edited February 8, 2016 by Fedorasfact
stereo3D Posted February 9, 2016 Posted February 9, 2016 Hi, is any ways to make same sensitivity in ads and hipfire mode? XFactorAiming=0.033333 AimDownSightsMouse=50 explanation: https://www.reddit.com/r/Rainbow6/comments/3vl3yn/calculating_your_exact_mouse_sensitivities/cy0kj0z
Fedorasfact Posted February 10, 2016 Posted February 10, 2016 (edited) Thank you, but tell me my calculations in my previous post were correct in this topic? I'm not sure that made all like advised the DPI Wizard, and if so I want to understand the problem and be able to change it to the same when set no standart sensivity. Edited February 10, 2016 by Fedorasfact
huor fefalas Posted May 20, 2016 Posted May 20, 2016 I cannot convert my CS:GO settings to Rainbow Six Siege, can you help? CS:GO settings: 400 dpi In-game Sensitivity: 1.56 1920x1080 default fov 23.5 '' monitor Rainbow Six Siege settings: 400 dpi 1920x1080 80 fov 23.5 '' monitor Thanks in advance.
Wizard DPI Wizard Posted May 20, 2016 Author Wizard Posted May 20, 2016 I cannot convert my CS:GO settings to Rainbow Six Siege, can you help? CS:GO settings: 400 dpi In-game Sensitivity: 1.56 1920x1080 default fov 23.5 '' monitor Rainbow Six Siege settings: 400 dpi 1920x1080 80 fov 23.5 '' monitor Thanks in advance. Select Hipfire (simple) for Rainbow Six if you have not changed the settings in the config file.
litiger98 Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 hi, how do i go about calculating sensitivity from r6 to csgo? i have my ingame sensitivity in siege at 3, and my DPI for both games is 1600. how to i get the value to put into csgo to get the same sensitivity?
Krio Posted May 26, 2016 Posted May 26, 2016 (edited) hi, how do i go about calculating sensitivity from r6 to csgo? i have my ingame sensitivity in siege at 3, and my DPI for both games is 1600. how to i get the value to put into csgo to get the same sensitivity? Assuming you haven't changed any of the multipliers in the ini file, you would enter your sensitivity into the conversion calculator as you normally would, then also set the "multiplier" which by default is .02 It should also be noted that if you want to match CS:GO's FoV in Siege, the setting would be about 74(73.74) vertical degrees (which translates to 90 horizontal on 4:3) EDIT: You can also select "Hipfire (Simple)" from the drop-down menu and it will enter the default multiplier for you. Edited May 26, 2016 by Krio admin 1
stereo3D Posted May 27, 2016 Posted May 27, 2016 if you're used to playing siege with a different fov, e.g. 60, then i would scale the sensitivity like this: 3 * 73.74 / 60 = 3.687 otherwise it won't feel the same if you only increase the fov.
Skwuruhl Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 Could you add cm/360 conversions for ACOG? DPI Wizard 1
Wizard DPI Wizard Posted August 6, 2016 Author Wizard Posted August 6, 2016 Could you add cm/360 conversions for ACOG? Quick question before I even try, what's the fastest way to get the ACOG?
Skwuruhl Posted August 6, 2016 Posted August 6, 2016 Quick question before I even try, what's the fastest way to get the ACOG? You get some currency for watching the tutorial videos and also for doing the situations (which can be done on easy and still get max currency, just need to do the challenges for those). Then any attacker except Glaz has a weapon you can put an ACOG on.
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