Before I go premium I need some help here...

[RipGroove]

My most natural feeling in game sensitivity is BF4 and that's probably due to the "Uniform Soldier Aiming" doing all the fancy calculations in the background for me. So naturally I'm trying to replicate this natural feel to PUBG but I'm having a little difficulty.

For reference:

Aspect Ratio 21:9 & FOV 55

My actual BF4 mouse 360 distances:

General Movement/Hip Fire = 25cm

Iron Sight & Red Dot = 41cm

2x Scope = 52cm

4x Scope = 91cm

8x Scope = 158cm

20x Scope = 212cm

I'm not set in stone on those distances, that's just what feels natural to me right now.

 

So I spent ages collecting each different scope in PUBG (absolute nightmare as no training or firing range mode) and using the in game sliders to match the 360 distances to the above, which on the face of it should have done the trick BUT it didn't, PUBG just feels weird. The only thing I can put it down to is the difference in FOV, BF has a default of 55 and PUBG is 80 (I think).

So am I right in thinking the difference in FOV is what is making things feel weird? If so, how do I fix it?

 

Edited February 4, 2018 by RipGroove

[RipGroove]

I guess what I'm asking is how do I translate my 30cm 360 distance to different in game scoped levels and FOV's?

[DPI Wizard]

You do it by simple transferring from a specific scope, say BF4 4x, to a specific scope in PUBG, the 4x one, and use 360 distance as conversion method. 

But yes, this will feel different because scopes with the same power (i.e. 4x) does not necessarily have the same FOV/scaling in different games. So it's much better to use Viewspeed or Monitor Distance.

[RipGroove]

Thanks so you understand what I'm trying to achieve here. I basically want BF4 uniform soldier aiming on PUBG, I want everything to feel as natural as it does in BF4 no matter what scope or FOV. 

I'm new to all this so I'm unsure of the terminology of viewspeed and monitor distance etc 

So can I achieve what i want by using the calculator here? If so, how? Does the calculator take into account the different FOV levels of PUBG's different scopes?

I have no problem paying for premium if I can get it to do what i want. 

Edited February 5, 2018 by RipGroove

[DPI Wizard]

9 minutes ago, RipGroove said:

Thanks so you understand what I'm trying to achieve here. I basically want BF4 uniform soldier aiming on PUBG, I want everything to feel as natural as it does in BF4 no matter what scope or FOV. 

I'm new to all this so I'm unsure of the terminology of viewspeed and monitor distance etc 

So can I achieve what i want by using the calculator here? If so, how? Does the calculator take into account the different FOV levels of PUBG's different scopes?

I have no problem paying for premium if I can get it to do whatcha want. 

What are your exact settings in BF4 for:

GstInput.MouseSensitivity
GstInput.UniformSoldierAimingCoefficient
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityAll
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityCloseRange 
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityMediumRange
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityLongRange
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityVeryLongRange
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityCloseMagnRange

 

[RipGroove]

14 minutes ago, DPI Wizard said:

What are your exact settings in BF4 for:

GstInput.MouseSensitivity
GstInput.UniformSoldierAimingCoefficient
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityAll
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityCloseRange 
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityMediumRange
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityLongRange
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityVeryLongRange
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityCloseMagnRange

 

I'm not home right now as I'm working all night but I'll post that info for you tomorrow morning. 

[RipGroove]

OK so in game my BF4 settings look like this:

Soldier Mouse Sensitivity = 2%

Iron Sight Sensitivity = 100%

Close Range Sensitivity = 100%

Magnified Close Range Sensitivity = 100%

Medium Range Sensitivity = 100%

Long Range Sensitivity = 100%

Very Long Range Sensitivity = 100%

Coefficient = 133% (In hindsight maybe this should be  233% as I'm using a 21:9 monitor?)

 

And the value in my PROFSAVE_profile are:
 

GstInput.MouseSensitivity 0.003000
GstInput.SoldierUniformAimingCoefficient 1.333333
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityAll 1.000000
GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityCloseRange 1.000000

GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityMediumRange 1.000000

GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityLongRange 1.000000

GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityVeryLongRange 1.000000

GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityCloseMagnRange 1.000000

GstInput.MouseSensitivityVehicle 0.270000
GstInput.SoldierUniformAiming 0

GstInput.SoldierZoomSensitivityIronSight 1.000000

 

And for reference my current mouse DPI is 1600 and my hipfire 360 distance is 25cm (measured with a ruler)

 

Ultimately in PUBG I'd the math written down so I'm able to replicate BF4's Uniform Soldier Aiming myself so that I can fine tune my PUBG hipfire 360 distance over time (aiming for 30cm to start with) and be able to adjust all the other sensitivity settings to maintain the UsA feel.

Currently I only play PUBG in 3rd Person at whatever the default FOV is, maybe I should change the in game FOV to suit my 21:9 monitor better? 

Edited February 6, 2018 by RipGroove

[DPI Wizard]

Ok, since you have all the zoom sensitivities at 1, you should be able to convert any scope to PUBG with the same result and feel.

[RipGroove]

33 minutes ago, DPI Wizard said:

Ok, since you have all the zoom sensitivities at 1, you should be able to convert any scope to PUBG with the same result and feel.

How? 

[DPI Wizard]

2 minutes ago, RipGroove said:

How? 

By using Monitor Distance 75% as conversion method, since this is essentially the same as USA 1.33. 

[RipGroove]

1 hour ago, DPI Wizard said:

By using Monitor Distance 75% as conversion method, since this is essentially the same as USA 1.33. 

And this should be fine for a 21:9 monitor? I'll go Premium at the weekend then and see what I come up with on the calculator. I'll post some screenshots in this thread to make sure I'm doing it right. 

[RipGroove]

Am I understanding this correctly? Is that what 75% monitor matching is:

This is my monitor, it has a horizontal screen size of 800mm

So if I was to theoretically mark the centre line, and then a mark at 300mm like this:

 

Then tweak all game sensitivity settings for all different scopes so my mouse travels the exact same distance to go from the centre line to the 300mm mark no matter what scope I'm using?

Is this essentially what 75% monitor matching is and what your calculator calculates?

[RipGroove]

Just to add, if I have got the gist of this then should I actually be using my 21:9 monitors 800mm distance to make these calculations or should I be drawing a theoretical 4:3 window in the middle of my monitor and using that instead? Reason I ask is that I read a lot about it being better to just use a 4:3 ratio rather than my actual 21:9 ratio. My initial first thought is that ideally I'd match to my 21:9 monitor...

Imaginary 4:3 window:

 

Should I be matching at the 163mm line?

Edited February 7, 2018 by RipGroove

[WhoCares?]

One year ago I had the same idea, unfortunely ist not working like this because your monitor is flat (I know it's curved but we treat it like it is flat ) and you need the chord length of your games fov to be matched, not your actual Monitor surface.

 

If your monitor is curved in the same way the chord length of your game is curved, then it would work

 

 

Edited February 7, 2018 by WhoCares?

[RipGroove]

Just now, WhoCares? said:

One year ago I had the same idea, unfortunely ist not working like this because your monitor is flat (I know it's curved but we treat it like it is flat ) and you need the chord length of your game to be matched, not your actual Monitor surface.

 

 

OK, so I need to use the imaginary 4:3 window in my above post? Or do I use an imaginary 16:9 window? Which I think would be 217mm away from the centre line.

Edited February 7, 2018 by RipGroove

[WhoCares?]

 

3 minutes ago, RipGroove said:

OK, so I need to use the imaginary 4:3 window in my above post? Or do I use an imaginary 16:9 window?

Neither: Matching "Monitor match" between different aspect rations doent work that easy  

[RipGroove]

1 minute ago, WhoCares? said:

 

Neither: Matching "Monitor match" between different aspect rations doent work that easy  

I'm not trying to go from a 4:3 monitor to 21:9 monitor, I've had this 21:9 monitor for a year or so, I just want to make each scope feel the same on all my games on the same 21:9 monitor.

Edited February 7, 2018 by RipGroove

[DPI Wizard]

29 minutes ago, RipGroove said:

Is this essentially what 75% monitor matching is and what your calculator calculates?

Correct!

[RipGroove]

Just now, DPI Wizard said:

Correct!

Yay! So, as above, should I actually be using my monitors 21:9 ratio to calculate matching or should I be using an imaginary 4:3 or 16:9 window?

[RipGroove]

Once I know what distance out from the centre line I should be matching to, in theory could I test this by actually physically marking a line on my monitor at that distance and set a few scopes to hit that line with the same physical mouse distance on my mouse mat to see how the scopes feel to make sure I'm on the right track?

Very long winded obviously and far too much work for every game and scope combo in my Steam Library! But would that be enough to test the theory before getting my head around the calculator and converting all my games properly?

[DPI Wizard]

19 hours ago, RipGroove said:

Yay! So, as above, should I actually be using my monitors 21:9 ratio to calculate matching or should I be using an imaginary 4:3 or 16:9 window?

Always enter the actual resolution of your monitor to make sure the FOV calculations are correct. If you want to match the 163 mm line of the 4:3 portion, use Monitor Distance 40.75% instead.

12 hours ago, RipGroove said:

Once I know what distance out from the centre line I should be matching to, in theory could I test this by actually physically marking a line on my monitor at that distance and set a few scopes to hit that line with the same physical mouse distance on my mouse mat to see how the scopes feel to make sure I'm on the right track?

Very long winded obviously and far too much work for every game and scope combo in my Steam Library! But would that be enough to test the theory before getting my head around the calculator and converting all my games properly?

This is basically what you see in the Monitor Distance video on the front page. You can do a few tests to make sure you are setting things up correctly, but it shouldn't be necessary to do it on all games/aims.

[RipGroove]

1 minute ago, DPI Wizard said:

Always enter the actual resolution of your monitor to make sure the FOV calculations are correct. If you want to match the 163 mm line of the 4:3 portion, use Monitor Distance 40.75% instead.

This is basically what you see in the Monitor Distance video on the front page. You can do a few tests to make sure you are setting things up correctly, but it shouldn't be necessary to do it on all games/aims.

Thanks, I'll work off of my actual monitors aspect ratio then and try a few scopes and games matched  at the 300mm line. If that all feels OK then I'll dive in to the calculator and try to convert all my games. 

[RipGroove]

So can I put PUBG in the top of the calculator as well as the bottom to distance match the different in game sliders?

I was thinking of putting my main hipfire sensitivity in the top once I'm happy with it and use that to calculate all the other sensitivity values for all the other in game sliders?

[DPI Wizard]

3 hours ago, RipGroove said:

So can I put PUBG in the top of the calculator as well as the bottom to distance match the different in game sliders?

I was thinking of putting my main hipfire sensitivity in the top once I'm happy with it and use that to calculate all the other sensitivity values for all the other in game sliders?

Yes.

[RipGroove]

12 minutes ago, DPI Wizard said:

Yes.

Perfect.